Yeah, it sux when the price of living goes up.. I hear dying costs a bundle too. I also understand that 'employers' are loath to pay the higher rates (charged by the Insurance Companies) for employee healthcare.. City, State, 'and' Federal. Who are the 'employers' in this argument?.. We, the taxpayers. Would you like HIGHER taxes so that Public employees can receive a benefit YOU have to pay more for yourself? Hardly.. It's funny, you hear people saying, "Give them a Raise! Give them more money! Give them more benefits! But do NOT raise my Taxes!" On the same token, I hear, "Pay them less! Take away their Benefits! Cut their Retirement!".. Oh, and Lower my Taxes! When speaking of 'some' public employees Sure is confusing.. eh? I say, let's force Insurance Companies to LOWER their premiums.. then buy from those that are willing to do so.. I say we 'ask' Hospitals to get 'reasonable' with charges so that Insurance Companies are being 'robbed
Here the argument is skewed again. Traditionally - public workers have worked for lower pay in exchange for better health coverage and benefits. Whereas private sector workers generally have worked for higher pay - bonuses and other compensation in exchange for lower health coverage and benefits. Yeah, I guess we need ONE system to fit ALL - so people can unite, because you have apples on one hand and oranges on the other and the comparison is really tiring about how one side has it so great while the other doesn't. Workers need to unite and hash things out with big business/government together so everyone can improve working conditions and wages - NOT attack each other for what one has and the other doesn't.
Realistically, the answer is to look at cost parity. Private and public sector employees should pay the same amount for the same amount of coverage. If you want X amount of coverage, you ought to pay $X for it, regardless of it you're working in the public or private sector. I'm not quite sure how this is such a hard concept to understand.
Once again we are looking at this situation from the wrong view point. If public employees pay more into the health care plan, they will be further inclined to run to the doctors office for every sniffle or cut finger, as they have a greater vested interest. I say continue giving them the best possible health care, but increase the "deductible". This way the insured will only go to the doctor if it is serious enough. It's so much easier to spend other peoples money...... just look at the govern-ment and you can see that. But when it comes out of our own pockets we tend to think twice.
All employees, government or private, should be aware of the high cost of medical coverage & by increasing the deductible, it will force them to do that.
Also.... DUMP the current health care bill and do it over with real change. How do you spell "tort reform"? Greedy attorneys are ruining this country.
Thank you Escanaban for your open mind. Many of us public employees pay a good portion of our insurance now. Anyone who thinks we're getting a free ride is sadly mistaken. We are paying, not only a portion of our insurance, but with wage concessions and loss of jobs. Public sector is not the winfall many people think it is. On the contrary, it is a very unstable place to be right now. When boards/councils look to cut money, they don't look at special projects, they decide which people are expendable. Hard to work when you don't know if you have a job the next day.
It's known that public employees have the Cadillac of health care policies. These policies are very expensive. They should pay more for them like everyone else is having to do. Every high school kid hears, "Get a government job and you're set for life."
Which public employees? City, state, federal?? Maybe if we knew which ones, and how much they pay now, people could make an informed vote on your rather generalized poll question!
EStacey
Yeah, it sux when the price of living goes up.. I hear dying costs a bundle too. I also understand that 'employers' are loath to pay the higher rates (charged by the Insurance Companies) for employee healthcare.. City, State, 'and' Federal. Who are the 'employers' in this argument?.. We, the taxpayers. Would you like HIGHER taxes so that Public employees can receive a benefit YOU have to pay more for yourself? Hardly.. It's funny, you hear people saying, "Give them a Raise! Give them more money! Give them more benefits! But do NOT raise my Taxes!" On the same token, I hear, "Pay them less! Take away their Benefits! Cut their Retirement!".. Oh, and Lower my Taxes! When speaking of 'some' public employees Sure is confusing.. eh? I say, let's force Insurance Companies to LOWER their premiums.. then buy from those that are willing to do so.. I say we 'ask' Hospitals to get 'reasonable' with charges so that Insurance Companies are being 'robbed
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Eskychess
Here the argument is skewed again. Traditionally - public workers have worked for lower pay in exchange for better health coverage and benefits. Whereas private sector workers generally have worked for higher pay - bonuses and other compensation in exchange for lower health coverage and benefits. Yeah, I guess we need ONE system to fit ALL - so people can unite, because you have apples on one hand and oranges on the other and the comparison is really tiring about how one side has it so great while the other doesn't. Workers need to unite and hash things out with big business/government together so everyone can improve working conditions and wages - NOT attack each other for what one has and the other doesn't.
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BryanJSebeck
Realistically, the answer is to look at cost parity. Private and public sector employees should pay the same amount for the same amount of coverage. If you want X amount of coverage, you ought to pay $X for it, regardless of it you're working in the public or private sector. I'm not quite sure how this is such a hard concept to understand.
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Retiredandhappy
Once again we are looking at this situation from the wrong view point. If public employees pay more into the health care plan, they will be further inclined to run to the doctors office for every sniffle or cut finger, as they have a greater vested interest. I say continue giving them the best possible health care, but increase the "deductible". This way the insured will only go to the doctor if it is serious enough. It's so much easier to spend other peoples money...... just look at the govern-ment and you can see that. But when it comes out of our own pockets we tend to think twice.
All employees, government or private, should be aware of the high cost of medical coverage & by increasing the deductible, it will force them to do that.
Also.... DUMP the current health care bill and do it over with real change. How do you spell "tort reform"? Greedy attorneys are ruining this country.
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cpepin
Thank you Escanaban for your open mind. Many of us public employees pay a good portion of our insurance now. Anyone who thinks we're getting a free ride is sadly mistaken. We are paying, not only a portion of our insurance, but with wage concessions and loss of jobs. Public sector is not the winfall many people think it is. On the contrary, it is a very unstable place to be right now. When boards/councils look to cut money, they don't look at special projects, they decide which people are expendable. Hard to work when you don't know if you have a job the next day.
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roller
It's known that public employees have the Cadillac of health care policies. These policies are very expensive. They should pay more for them like everyone else is having to do. Every high school kid hears, "Get a government job and you're set for life."
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ambiguous1
Teabagger ignorance is showing here. Oh, no, it's not Wall Street that's hosing you. It's those*******public employees.
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Escanaban
Which public employees? City, state, federal?? Maybe if we knew which ones, and how much they pay now, people could make an informed vote on your rather generalized poll question!
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