The op-ed piece that you tried to direct me to is completely unreliable. The paper they quote is by Roy Spencer, one of only a handful of Climate Scientists who deny the human impact on climate change. Climate Scientists across the world have denounced the paper as "unrealiable", "unrealistic", "flawed", and "incorrect". In fact, Kevin Trenberth, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, has said this about the paper, "I cannot believe it got published." Dr. Spencer is additionally a fellow at three uber-conservative think tanks that all receive significant funding from Exxon-Mobil. That alone shows that his work is heavily biased. Why? He's funded by the very people who want you to use more petroleum!
No, again, I'm not saying that human influence is even the primary driver of climate change. I'm merely stating that climate change is real and that humans do play a part in it. Both of these statements
@Bryan - •New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than
Steve, you're contradicting yourself. You start out by stating that while human contribution is real and measurable, the degree of impact is currently unknown. Then, you go on to say that the impact of the human contribution is less than any combination of other things.
Which is it? Is the impact of the human contribution unknown, or do you have some data to prove the impact that you're not sharing?
If a scientist was able to show the effect of human activities on earth alone it would be a worthwhile arguement. Some simple things like the Tunguska Event in Siberia in 1908, every forest fire and all of the volcano eruptions in the last 100 years amount to more greenhouse gases than all the human activity in that same time.
Mike, what's with the namecalling? That is disrespectful and completely unwarranted.
As for the hottest summer on record, that entirely depends on where you're talking about. In Escanaba, no daily, monthly, nor yearly record high occurred pre 1949. In the US, the hottest summer on record was indeed in 1936, as you stated but failed to specify. However, as I previously stated, single year occurances do not outweigh the greater trend over time. Since 1885 (when reliable records go back to) the global trend is temerature increase. As Danny mentioned, the trouble is in determining how much of this increase is directly attributable to human influence.
Realistically, it's a very difficult thing to either prove or disprove. Global climate change occurs on grand scale, not on a year to year basis. Yes, it can easily be said that global climage change is certainly a contributing factor, but it's hardly the sole cause.
BryanJSebeck
The op-ed piece that you tried to direct me to is completely unreliable. The paper they quote is by Roy Spencer, one of only a handful of Climate Scientists who deny the human impact on climate change. Climate Scientists across the world have denounced the paper as "unrealiable", "unrealistic", "flawed", and "incorrect". In fact, Kevin Trenberth, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, has said this about the paper, "I cannot believe it got published." Dr. Spencer is additionally a fellow at three uber-conservative think tanks that all receive significant funding from Exxon-Mobil. That alone shows that his work is heavily biased. Why? He's funded by the very people who want you to use more petroleum!
No, again, I'm not saying that human influence is even the primary driver of climate change. I'm merely stating that climate change is real and that humans do play a part in it. Both of these statements
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SicSemperTyrannis
@Bryan - •New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than
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BryanJSebeck
Steve, you're contradicting yourself. You start out by stating that while human contribution is real and measurable, the degree of impact is currently unknown. Then, you go on to say that the impact of the human contribution is less than any combination of other things.
Which is it? Is the impact of the human contribution unknown, or do you have some data to prove the impact that you're not sharing?
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SteveODriscoll
If a scientist was able to show the effect of human activities on earth alone it would be a worthwhile arguement. Some simple things like the Tunguska Event in Siberia in 1908, every forest fire and all of the volcano eruptions in the last 100 years amount to more greenhouse gases than all the human activity in that same time.
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BryanJSebeck
Mike, what's with the namecalling? That is disrespectful and completely unwarranted.
As for the hottest summer on record, that entirely depends on where you're talking about. In Escanaba, no daily, monthly, nor yearly record high occurred pre 1949. In the US, the hottest summer on record was indeed in 1936, as you stated but failed to specify. However, as I previously stated, single year occurances do not outweigh the greater trend over time. Since 1885 (when reliable records go back to) the global trend is temerature increase. As Danny mentioned, the trouble is in determining how much of this increase is directly attributable to human influence.
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Snowbird
This was a fun one! In the summer, it is hot. In the winter, it is cold. Always has been and always will be! : )
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MikeDavis
The hottest summer on record was in the 1930s. You never hear the wackos mention that.
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BryanJSebeck
Realistically, it's a very difficult thing to either prove or disprove. Global climate change occurs on grand scale, not on a year to year basis. Yes, it can easily be said that global climage change is certainly a contributing factor, but it's hardly the sole cause.
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