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Businesses get updates, thanks to plan

November 15, 2013

ESCANABA — Escanaba’s Energy Optimization Plan — which the city’s electric customers contribute to — recently paid for refrigeration improvements at 13 local businesses, the Escanaba City Council wa......

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:11 PM

Perhaps, in their infinite wisdom the city could sell the property and equipment for $1.00,

just like a few other transactions or real estate transaction of prime water front pooperty.

Next, someone will profit from selling us refrigeration units that use no fuel or electricity in the winter, and

heating units that use no fuel or electricity in the summer..

ALL FREE…

As long as consumers pay businesses prices

that include so many MANDATED, and HIDDEN

CHARGES/COSTS passed onto consumers by these business interlopers… for our own good?

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:13 PM

This article is particularly articulate and precisely delineates

a problem and concern about why we can’t pave main street, or kill the weeds growing in the park.

When the city of Escanaba was deciding what to do about our electrical needs before our electrical plant was constructed, around the late 1950's,

they wanted to sell the distribution system for $1,200,000.00 dollars around 1958.

55 years later, they want to give away the whole electrical plant for $1,500,000.00 is there any talk about deflation?

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:14 PM

What about Energy Optimization Plans for our schools?

NONE OF OUR SCHOOLS,

has even the insulation values of a dwelling in our area.

ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS,

are deficient in wall, window and roof insulation, as well as entry barriers for heat and cold.

MOST SCHOOLS DON’T EVEN HAVE INSULATION IN THEIR WALLS.

NONE OF OUR SCHOOLS MEET MINIMUM INSULATION STANDARDS FOR DWELLINGS.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:15 PM

Viau's Market,

Sav More Foodliner,

Dobber's Pasties,

Michigan Meats and Processing,

Just Burgers and More,

Crispigna's Foods LLC,

Jade Garden Restaurant,

Hudson's Classic Grill,

Taco Bell,

Bob's Family Store and

Rosy's Diner.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:17 PM

Misleading headlines,

linking free business benefits,

does no one, no good, no how…

But yet, businesses get the benefit of 80,000 pages of IRS tax dodges,

tax abatement schemes extorted from governments at all levels, and

yet, headlines like this proclaiming these taxpayer provided perks

is somehow news that we should welcome?

Will consumer see the benefits or our tax dollars result in lower prices?

We all know business

PASSES ALONG ALL OF THEIR COST’S OF OPERATION TO ITS CUSTOMERS.

Bay College, by contrast,

uses more energy for heating and has the cooling capacity to ACCIDENTLY use more than these businesses combined:

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:19 PM

“Businesses get updates, thanks to plan”

Or, so the

HEADLINE

would have us believe!

Here is truth in HEADLINING:

“Businesses get FREE updates, thanks to taxpayers”

NEVER WILL WE SEE THIS PRINTED, OR RECITED IN THE MEDIA AS

NEWS!

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BravesRock

Nov-16-13 3:08 PM

Of course, Frog has no problem giving away taxpayer dollars for Obamacare, etc., but Heaven forbid that businesses (who provide jobs for local residents and tax base to the City)get a few bucks for improvements. Don't even start with the rants about "corporation and the rich." We're talking small locally-owned businesses here.

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:12 PM

Bravescrokd,

get it right just

ONCE

- don’t continually show your ignorance

- it’s tiresome to point out the obvious to a rockhead, which rhymes with blockheads rock!

BUSINESSES USE UP A PERSON’S HEALTH and life to make a PROFIT.

BUSINESSES ONLY HIRE PEOPLE TO MAKE A PROFIT - no other moral reason

BUSINESSES DO NOT PAY TAXES.

CONSUMERS THAT BUY BUSINESSES GOODS AND SERVICES

PAY FOR all their TAXES

BECAUSE BUSINESS PASSES ON ALL COSTS OF OPERATION

ONTO THEIR CUSTOMERS

IN ORDER TO MAKE THEIR

PROFIT.

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:16 PM

Top 10 States Hourly Wage Paid Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

Hawaii $17.50

Alaska $15.48

Massachusetts $14.66

Connecticut $14.23

Washington, D.C. $13.99

New York $13.13

New Jersey $12.55

Rhode Island $12.55

California $11.59

Virginia $11.11

Obviously, these are numbers, and they are statistics, much too complicated for (_____________________) use your

own name and print it between the ( )'S

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:18 PM

Average Time on Aid to Families with Dependent Children

Less than 7 months 19.0%

7 to 12 months 15.2%

1 to 2 years 19.3%

2 to 5 years 26.9%

Over 5 years 19.6%

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:21 PM

Total amount of money you can make monthly and

still receive Welfare $1000

Total Number of U.S. States

where Welfare

pays more than an $8 per hour 39

Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than

$12 per hour 6

Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher

8

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:22 PM

Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %

Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %

Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %

Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %

Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:24 PM

Total number of Americans on welfare

12,800,000

Total number of Americans on food stamps

46,700,000

Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance

5,600,000

Percent of the US population on welfare

4.1 %

Total government spending on welfare annually

(not including food stamps or unemployment)

$131.9 billion

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frogleggs

Nov-16-13 11:29 PM

According to the U.S. Department of Commerce as of the posted research date of:

09-10-2013

The following statistics were deemed valid:

In all, total government spending for welfare annual was

$131,000,000,000 ($131.9 billion dollars)

In all, total number of American on WELFARE were

12,800,000 (12.8 million people)

DIVIDING THE TOTAL OF $131.9 BILLION DOLLAR SPENT ON WELFARE

BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON WELFARE

12.8 MILLION PEOPLE

WILL AVERAGE A YEARLY

“WELFARE TAKE”

EQUAL TO $10,304.68 per person

enrolled on welfare.

Granted, there are also other 'programs' to provide a 'cushion' and not forced to live on $10,304.00 a year...

HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD

TRADE

YOUR INCOME

AND IN TURN RECEIVE $10,304.00 a year ?

BraveCrock, Vuchee, concerned?

Not me!

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puckrock

Nov-18-13 10:57 AM

another froggy circle jerk.

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Whizzywhig

Nov-24-13 7:56 PM

Pukerock,

In order to form a ‘circle’ you have to somehow manage to arrange your friends and family to form a circle…

Since your comments display limited mentally, and devoid of any thought or capability to add intelligent debate, it might be assumed that you don't have a family or friends.

It would seem that you were able to convince or form a circle arising from friends and family members,

to join your circle, probably more jerks there,

figuratively,

literally,

qualitatively and

quantitatively speaking,

than in “froggys” circle ...

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frogleggs

Nov-28-13 10:50 AM

Either

you have the capability or not,

mostly you have small thoughts,

not hyperbole,

- just stating facts obtained and arranged from your thought process

- or whatever it is, that seeps out to arrive in printed form…

- it is what it is,

- not more…

- more like less.

just saying..

from what you put out as thinking,

illogical

as it is

what it is…

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frogleggs

Nov-28-13 10:57 AM

Bravesocks,

- a business is a business,

- the rich are rich,

- republicans are republicans

- you is what you is… a large opening for small thought's

- congress receives payments from the rich and their corporations to get elected

- congress reacts in its own, selfish, best interest

- they spend 60% of their time in washington trying to get funds to perpetuate

- ‘grand illusions’,

- schemes,

- another favor for their patrons

- it is what it is…

- you elected the rascals

- the rich, the republicans and their corporations

rap.e the rest of us and get the benies, monies.

- you cannot equate large - small

- they'll get it all

- you cannot equate thinking capacity big or small,

- nothing at all..

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frogleggs

Nov-28-13 11:07 AM

Bravescrocks, Vauhchee, Shlort

Republican,s the rich, their corporations, the businessmen,

all... of them

ARE TRULLY THANKFUL THIS THANKSGIVING DAY

for what legal, wage-earning taxpaying citizens have given them:

their congressmen,

their regulators,

their laws,

their tax breaks,

their fortunes

their villas

and their desire to take more from the rest of us...

as they figure yet more ways

to keep their businesses open,

and dishearten their workers,

who subsist on state provided healthcare...

$94 billion and counting,

yet many states have sued walmart for their employees' healthcare

they can not afford to pay from that $94 billion pile of accumulated wealth

by buying their merchandise from off-shore sweatshops.

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