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Policy cancellations: Obama will allow old plans

November 14, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he hears Americans who are upset about losing their health insurance "loud and clear" and is offering a fix....

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arealyooper

Nov-14-13 2:52 PM

No actually the worst ever in the history of the world was little Georgie Bush !!

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EStacey

Nov-14-13 3:09 PM

The reason the policies were being cancelled in the first place is because "Obama said they didn't qualify, ie... offering maternal care to old men, and ****** to women, that sorta thing" Now he's 'saying' the '(his words) substandard' policies qualify? - Or, they're good for a year?..

What happens then? Y'know, I'm wondering when they will actually start working on "AFFORDABLE" healthcare.. cause right now it's game of getting Insurance companies to PAY the bills without raising premiums and deductables...

I will sell you a policy tomorrow, five dollar premiums and 100% deductable - who's buying this latest garbage?!!

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EStacey

Nov-14-13 3:10 PM

Strange.. you cannot say Vi Agra here...

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EStacey

Nov-14-13 3:12 PM

Now, how does the KING of America convince insurance companies to 're-establish' policies they have already shredded ? - And will they be at the SAME rates if they did?... I doubt it.. No Insurance company will ever, ever offer you MORE for LESS, unless.. you're willing to take on a HIGHER deductable, or do without certain services..

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Shlort

Nov-15-13 8:37 AM

These policiy cancellation notices were not to take effect immediately. They were "As of January 1" types of letters, the way I understand it.

Here is something I think is interesting. Congress and the Senate breezed through an amendment to the ACA in order to get that cancellation part of the law through once they realized the ACA would not work without people with money paying in. It was part of the plan.

Either Obama is lying again, or he just killed his signature law by keeping the payers out of the system.

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Shlort

Nov-15-13 8:45 AM

arealyooper thinks Obama is the best president ever. lol

It is funny how some people hold so tight to Obama no matter what happens.

Obama had an opportunity to be a decent enough president. Problem is that his marxist style of government will never take root in this country because there are not enough people like "arealyooper" around to think he is doing a great job.

What Obama should have done is his job. Let the Houses hash out things in the way the system was designed and sign good bills into law. Instead, Obama thought he had a mandate from the people that he could do whatever he wanted. Same with House and Senate Democrats. Republicans have had ideas, but Reid refuses to even call them by name. He just tosses them out and never allows them to the floor. Republicans even had a plan for a healthcare overhaul. Scrapped by Reid. Same with Jobs bills, budgets and etc. No action.

The Senate has been writing everything their own way. That is why there is gridlock.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 9:54 AM

The affordable healthcare act wanted to put and end to these republican insurance company scams and abuses,

because someone, FINALLY, had the nerve to establish insurance standard across the insurance market spectrum, across all state borders.

IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE PRESENT ITERATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE MEAL,

LOOK ELSEWHERE - FOLLOW THE MONEY -

IT’S AS SIMPLE AS PUTTING PIE IN YOUR PIE-HOLE.

The question that begs to be answered, is simply,

WHY haven't, hasn't insurance companies offered the same coverage in every state,

and why do state insurance boards or examiner’s

have to ’approve or reject' every scam creatively conceived by millions of insurance peddlers?

The answer lies waiting for your discovery in the history,

in books hidden away telling of the history of insurance scams and schemes, under the guise of

entrepreneurial spirit and

the free-enterprise system.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 9:55 AM

They’d rather ride the fringe and claim they have something when reality is

they have nothing, except the dole to count on.

Perhaps, if business paid a decent wage,

a week long enough to earn a living wage,

society would be better served.

No wonder there are so many squeals from these rodents, businesses, their employees and everyone else that can never be satisfied by working…

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 9:56 AM

The whole idea was to eliminate these insurance schemes and make rich republican and rich democratically owned ponzi insurance schemes

from marketing these rip-offs.

Of course, cheap people dislike paying for something worthwhile,

because they want to buy and pay for cheap, not able to read the take-aways in the fine print,

because they don’t have the facility or to take time from beer drinking, game playing, fishing, hunting bowling, camo buying time,

oh, our children? … we have schools to baby-sit and take care of our spawn,

get on and deal the next hand, and where’s the beer?

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 9:58 AM

Think of it cable TV and their suppliers is bilking millions of customers under the pretense of offering television entertainment programs,

when in reality they are just gaming the public and selling 40-75% of every hour as commercials or infomercials.

Well, the affordable healthcare act/law was supposed to ‘eliminate’ cheap policies because the only thing that resembled insurance was the fact that the word ‘insurance’ was written on it’s face.

Low intelligence and chaep people wanted to keep these money-making schemes disguised as ‘insurance’ because they were cheap!

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:00 AM

Cheaep people, millions and millions of them, even a few squirreled away in our neighborhoods will

ALWAYS BUY CHEAP!

They buy cheap because of low intelligence.

They buy cheap because it cuts into their beer money.

They buy cheap because it cuts into their pot money.

They buy cheap because they don’t work.

They buy cheap because, because because...

These same people buy auto insurance to get license plates, and then cancel their cheap insurance.

These are the very same people who want to buy sub-standard insurance policies, those low monthly pay-in payment plans,

with very few plans paying-out and hundreds of stipulations.

Charter communications is full of these cheap pay as low as you want to pay commercials.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:02 AM

As reported,

one of the provisions of the original plan was to ELIMINATE what was commonly called the ‘doughnut hole’ non-coverage.

Insurance companies and their schemes were raking in,

huge amounts of money selling coverage for this so-called donut hole coverage.

The original plan, as envisioned would have eliminated the doughnut hole, and

cut off a pig of money, insurance companies felt they were 'entitled' to.

O’bama was between a rock and a hard place,

fearing the unleashing of a HUGE LOBBYING effort

on behalf of the industry and the rich, he caved,

to avoid a showdown at 12:00 noon,

this is the best he could wring from the rich,

and now, the rest is history

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:04 AM

If you remember,

as originally envisioned, the proposed insurance plan was decimated

BECAUSE BIG BUSINESS

INSURANCE COMPANIES

had lobbied HEAVILY,

to make sure their,

soon to be ILLEGAL insurance schemes wouldn’t be halted,

or ELSE,

they’d unleash huge piles of

OUR INSURANCE PREMIUM MONEY

TO DEFEAT THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION

AS WRITTEN.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:05 AM

IMPROPERLY APPLIED

CACHES OF MONEY FROM THE RICH,

THEIR CORPORATIONS AND their

REPUBLICAN OWNERS

DECIMATED the original dream of what healthcare should be.

MONEY AND PILES OF IT,

has created what is left of the original plan.

If people don’t like the legislation,

look not at the plans creator’s,

look at those who provided the pressure to

REWRITE, REDACT, AND

insert special privilege FOR

the insurance industry and their

RICH OWNERS.

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 11:30 AM

If you are in an open season for renewing your health insurance, look closely at the changes in policies for next year. Why? premiums and office visits may not increase much, but other co-pays and deductibles are going up a lot. Why? Well, because someone has to pay for this boondoggle. Read the fine print!

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 11:40 AM

Frog, I (and many like me) am willing to pay more to get a better product. But if a young healthy person chooses to buy a "cheap" plan or take the risk of going without insurance, they should be able to do so. When I was young, single, and very healthy, I went without health insurance for years. I knew the risk I was taking, I saved a ton of money, and I didn't expect anyone to bail me out if something happened and I needed health care. I took an informed risk, and I should still have the right to. Now that I am no longer young or single, but still very healthy, I choose to purchase a plan that provides a safety net for emergencies as well as reasonable preventative care. I will not buy a high-end plan that covers all kinds of stuff I don't need. By the way, I hunt, fish, and occasionally wear camo and drink a beer. But I, and many of my camo-wearing, beer-drinking friends, am perfectly capable of making choices without the nanny state telling me what is best.

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Yooper342

Nov-15-13 12:14 PM

Even the King can not legally be doing this change, that change. That is how a dictator bahaves. Obama is an slef absorbed, arogrant, non job holding idiot. If it was only the stupid democrates losing their insurance I would not care. People who voted once or twice for this fool deserve what they get. Big Gov. has NEVER worked through out history you dummies. Get off your******and do honest work people and quit looking for hand outs.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:36 PM

Consequently,

society being what it is today,

unwillingly all of us must pick up the tab for public stupidity.

Whether the price tab hit's us squarely up front or is hidden in increased costs of goods and services... it will be paid.

You may assert your ‘right’s’ as stupid and ignorant as they are,

because you believe, they are your inalienable right to your ‘freedom to choose”,

but reality strikes up and hit’s the rest of us in the A.ss, and pocket books

because of your obsession to save a shekel.

One more time bravescrock,

now is different than then.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:39 PM

bravescrock,

That was then, now is different.

You could risk the health of yourself and your family, and you had the choice,

there were no bleeding hearts around to pickup the actions of your stupidity.

You chose to expose your family to risk, and they were left to suffer from your mistakes.

Today, we have discovered more ailments that never existed 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 50 years ago.

Somehow, these medical mysteries inserted themselves into the public health,

and today, are too costly for one insurance deficient dope to cope with and provide for his family.

Healthcare for the insurance deficient has become a burden to society...

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 6:42 PM

Just to be clear, Frog, I did not risk the health of my family. I was only without insurance when I was single and on my own. And the plan I have now in no way puts my family at risk. I know a lot of folks don't like to hear this, but if people exercise, eat right, don't smoke, don't drink excessively, and maintain a healthy weight it's amazing how much more healthy they are. I'm not saying that it's the answer for everything -- tragic accidents happen, there are genetic conditions, and so on, but lots of people don't do a thing to take care of themselves and then wonder why they are sick all the time and don't have the energy to walk around the block. Along those lines, I am all in favor of insurance plans that encourage and reward healthy lifestyles, as well as providing preventative care.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:03 PM

A new day has dawned,

an old song has become your new song:

“Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away…

Now it looks as though they're here to stay

Oh, I believe in yesterday…

Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be

There's a shadow hanging over me

Yesterday was such an easy game to play

Now I need a place to hide away

Oh, I believe in yesterday...”

once-upon-a-time…

Now, is different than then, yesterday...

You may believe in yesterday, but at today's prices, yesterday is a pipe dream, that passed us by.

Say it one more time...

"Once-upon-a-time!"

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:04 PM

Everyone shoul Cough up, quit your whining…

even if it means:

a few beers less every night, every week…

a few more stay-at-home-at-night with the family,

with the wife or insignificant other,

a few less shopping days at wal-box,

a fishing boat,

a new gun,

a motor home,

a ball that no-longer bowls,

a second house in the woods of Hiawatha…

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:05 PM

“Once-upon-a-time, “

has passed you and me behind,

the new day dawned, and is where everyone should contribute the price of their own funeral,

even if they choose not to, and

shove the burden of digging the grave into someone else’s wallet.

For those who want to

‘save a ton of money’

the time has come to meet reality.

FINALLY,

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:07 PM

One more time bravescrock,

now is different than then,

back in “once-upon-a-time land you're fond of remembering“...

“Society being what it is today,

unwillingly,

ALL of us are forced to pick up the tab for public [thrift] stupidity.”

Whether the price tab hit's us squarely up front,

or is hidden in increased costs of goods and services...

it will be paid.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:08 PM

Your words:

“I was only without insurance when

I was single and on my own.

When I was young, single, and very healthy,

I went without health insurance for years.

I knew the risk I was taking,

I saved a ton of money…

But if a young healthy person chooses to buy a "cheap" plan or take the risk of going without insurance,

they should be able to do so. “

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