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Policy cancellations: Obama will allow old plans

November 14, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama says he hears Americans who are upset about losing their health insurance "loud and clear" and is offering a fix....

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:52 PM

A Parable or A Fable?

Evidently,

from previous pronouncements employing their version and skills incorporating

"critical thinking",

some here can't understand, or

don’t like comparison’s old or new,

used or original..

Let the dolts decide.

Hint:

A parable is a

succinct,

didactic story,

in prose, or

verse,

which illustrates

one or more

instructive lessons or principles.

It differs from a fable in that fables

employ animals, plants, inanimate objects, or

forces of nature as characters,

whereas parables

have human characters.

A parable is a form of analogy...

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:50 PM

The Mousetrap -

A poor mouse looked through the crack of the farmhouse wall...

to see the farmer and his wife open a package.

"What food might this contain?"

the poor mouse imagined.

He was devastated to discover it was a republican mousetrap.

Retreating to the farmyard,

the poor mouse proclaimed this warning:

"There’s a republican poor mousetrap in the house!

There’s a republican poor mousetrap in the house!"

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:49 PM

The chicken clucked, scratched and clucked more,

raised her head and said,

poor mouse,

I can tell this is a grave concern to you,

but it is of no consequence to me.

I can’t be bothered by it."

The poor mouse turned to the pig and told him,

"There is a republican mousetrap in the house!

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:47 PM

The pig sympathized,

but said,

"I am sorry, poor mouse,

but there is nothing I can do about it but pray.

Be assured you are in my prayers."

The poor mouse turned to the cow and said,

"There’s a republican mousetrap in the house!

The cow said,

"Wow, you poor mouse that lives in a House...

I'm sorry for you,

but it's no skin off my nose."

So, mouse returned to his house,

head down and dejected,

to face the farmer's republican mousetrap...

ALONE - all.. alone....

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:45 PM

That very night a sound was heard throughout the house ...

-- like the sound of a republican mousetrap

catching its prey.

The farmer's wife rushed to see what was caught.

In the darkness,

she did not see it was a venomous republican snake

whose tail the trap had caught.

The snake bit the farmer's wife.

The farmer rushed her to the hospital ,

and she returned home with a fever...

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:44 PM

Everyone knows

you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup,

so the farmer,

hatchet in hand,

headed off to the farmyard for the soup's main ingredient...

But his wife's sickness continued …

friends and neighbors came to sit with her around the clock.

To feed them,

the farmer butchered the pig.

The farmer's wife did not get well.

She died.

Many people came to her funeral…

the farmer had the cow slaughtered

to provide enough meat for all of them.

The poor mouse looked upon it all from his crack in the wall

with great sadness...

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Cheesehead

Nov-25-13 5:43 PM

Moral:

if you’re not rich,

not a republican

not a corporation or

not a business man…

and,

you work for wages, or poor like a mouse…

the next time you hear that someone is facing a problem...

and think it doesn't concern you…

remember

-- when one of us who works for wages,

is threatened,

we are,

ALL

of US who work for WAGES …

we ALL are

threatened and

face increased risk and loss…

while we sit idly and

allow OUR vote and

OUR elected officials

to marginalize,

negate,

pros.titute, or disenfranchise OUR VOTE,

in favor of their financiers and their lobbyists with our taxes...

remember, the rich republicans, democrats, their corporations and their businesses

DON'T PAY TAXES.

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BravesRock

Nov-18-13 2:33 PM

Frog, How was I a freeloader? I was uninsured, and if I went to the doctor, I paid the whole bill. If I needed to get a prescription filled, I paid for it. If I had incurred bills I couldn't pay off right away I would have paid them off over time. I would not have asked or expected anyone else to pay for me.

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frogleggs

Nov-18-13 7:33 AM

Braesrock,

Can’t you READ?

How many times do we have to pose this question to you?

To quote myself…

Not you.

I said:

EVERYONE SHOULD COUGH UP…

As it is, and, as it has been,

there are too many not paying into the system, and

once-upon-a-time, by your own admission

you were a free-loader…

BTW, are you over-weight

FAT or SLOPPY?

I'd definitely say you are sloopy,

and unable to concentrate and lack attention to detail,

your thoughts and writing are ample evidence that are incriminating...

just saying.

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BravesRock

Nov-16-13 11:06 AM

Frog, I am in no way interested in "coughing up" one thin dime to support the overweight slobs whose idea of a workout is going to the fridge to get another beer and walking from their car to the store to buy a pack of cigs all in the same day. I will pay my own way, and if necessary "cough up" to help pay for those who have fallen in hard times, but I am sick of the entitlement mentality. When half the population of this country is on some kind of government dole, there is something wrong.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:09 PM

BRAVEScrock,

Your words quoted below was

“once upon a time” in a different utopia

That was then,

“once-upon-a-time.”

The world turned a few times since then, yesterday.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:08 PM

Your words:

“I was only without insurance when

I was single and on my own.

When I was young, single, and very healthy,

I went without health insurance for years.

I knew the risk I was taking,

I saved a ton of money…

But if a young healthy person chooses to buy a "cheap" plan or take the risk of going without insurance,

they should be able to do so. “

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:07 PM

One more time bravescrock,

now is different than then,

back in “once-upon-a-time land you're fond of remembering“...

“Society being what it is today,

unwillingly,

ALL of us are forced to pick up the tab for public [thrift] stupidity.”

Whether the price tab hit's us squarely up front,

or is hidden in increased costs of goods and services...

it will be paid.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:05 PM

“Once-upon-a-time, “

has passed you and me behind,

the new day dawned, and is where everyone should contribute the price of their own funeral,

even if they choose not to, and

shove the burden of digging the grave into someone else’s wallet.

For those who want to

‘save a ton of money’

the time has come to meet reality.

FINALLY,

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:04 PM

Everyone shoul Cough up, quit your whining…

even if it means:

a few beers less every night, every week…

a few more stay-at-home-at-night with the family,

with the wife or insignificant other,

a few less shopping days at wal-box,

a fishing boat,

a new gun,

a motor home,

a ball that no-longer bowls,

a second house in the woods of Hiawatha…

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 8:03 PM

A new day has dawned,

an old song has become your new song:

“Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away…

Now it looks as though they're here to stay

Oh, I believe in yesterday…

Suddenly I'm not half the man I used to be

There's a shadow hanging over me

Yesterday was such an easy game to play

Now I need a place to hide away

Oh, I believe in yesterday...”

once-upon-a-time…

Now, is different than then, yesterday...

You may believe in yesterday, but at today's prices, yesterday is a pipe dream, that passed us by.

Say it one more time...

"Once-upon-a-time!"

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 6:42 PM

Just to be clear, Frog, I did not risk the health of my family. I was only without insurance when I was single and on my own. And the plan I have now in no way puts my family at risk. I know a lot of folks don't like to hear this, but if people exercise, eat right, don't smoke, don't drink excessively, and maintain a healthy weight it's amazing how much more healthy they are. I'm not saying that it's the answer for everything -- tragic accidents happen, there are genetic conditions, and so on, but lots of people don't do a thing to take care of themselves and then wonder why they are sick all the time and don't have the energy to walk around the block. Along those lines, I am all in favor of insurance plans that encourage and reward healthy lifestyles, as well as providing preventative care.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:39 PM

bravescrock,

That was then, now is different.

You could risk the health of yourself and your family, and you had the choice,

there were no bleeding hearts around to pickup the actions of your stupidity.

You chose to expose your family to risk, and they were left to suffer from your mistakes.

Today, we have discovered more ailments that never existed 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 50 years ago.

Somehow, these medical mysteries inserted themselves into the public health,

and today, are too costly for one insurance deficient dope to cope with and provide for his family.

Healthcare for the insurance deficient has become a burden to society...

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 1:36 PM

Consequently,

society being what it is today,

unwillingly all of us must pick up the tab for public stupidity.

Whether the price tab hit's us squarely up front or is hidden in increased costs of goods and services... it will be paid.

You may assert your ‘right’s’ as stupid and ignorant as they are,

because you believe, they are your inalienable right to your ‘freedom to choose”,

but reality strikes up and hit’s the rest of us in the A.ss, and pocket books

because of your obsession to save a shekel.

One more time bravescrock,

now is different than then.

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Yooper342

Nov-15-13 12:14 PM

Even the King can not legally be doing this change, that change. That is how a dictator bahaves. Obama is an slef absorbed, arogrant, non job holding idiot. If it was only the stupid democrates losing their insurance I would not care. People who voted once or twice for this fool deserve what they get. Big Gov. has NEVER worked through out history you dummies. Get off your******and do honest work people and quit looking for hand outs.

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 11:40 AM

Frog, I (and many like me) am willing to pay more to get a better product. But if a young healthy person chooses to buy a "cheap" plan or take the risk of going without insurance, they should be able to do so. When I was young, single, and very healthy, I went without health insurance for years. I knew the risk I was taking, I saved a ton of money, and I didn't expect anyone to bail me out if something happened and I needed health care. I took an informed risk, and I should still have the right to. Now that I am no longer young or single, but still very healthy, I choose to purchase a plan that provides a safety net for emergencies as well as reasonable preventative care. I will not buy a high-end plan that covers all kinds of stuff I don't need. By the way, I hunt, fish, and occasionally wear camo and drink a beer. But I, and many of my camo-wearing, beer-drinking friends, am perfectly capable of making choices without the nanny state telling me what is best.

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BravesRock

Nov-15-13 11:30 AM

If you are in an open season for renewing your health insurance, look closely at the changes in policies for next year. Why? premiums and office visits may not increase much, but other co-pays and deductibles are going up a lot. Why? Well, because someone has to pay for this boondoggle. Read the fine print!

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:05 AM

IMPROPERLY APPLIED

CACHES OF MONEY FROM THE RICH,

THEIR CORPORATIONS AND their

REPUBLICAN OWNERS

DECIMATED the original dream of what healthcare should be.

MONEY AND PILES OF IT,

has created what is left of the original plan.

If people don’t like the legislation,

look not at the plans creator’s,

look at those who provided the pressure to

REWRITE, REDACT, AND

insert special privilege FOR

the insurance industry and their

RICH OWNERS.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:04 AM

If you remember,

as originally envisioned, the proposed insurance plan was decimated

BECAUSE BIG BUSINESS

INSURANCE COMPANIES

had lobbied HEAVILY,

to make sure their,

soon to be ILLEGAL insurance schemes wouldn’t be halted,

or ELSE,

they’d unleash huge piles of

OUR INSURANCE PREMIUM MONEY

TO DEFEAT THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION

AS WRITTEN.

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frogleggs

Nov-15-13 10:02 AM

As reported,

one of the provisions of the original plan was to ELIMINATE what was commonly called the ‘doughnut hole’ non-coverage.

Insurance companies and their schemes were raking in,

huge amounts of money selling coverage for this so-called donut hole coverage.

The original plan, as envisioned would have eliminated the doughnut hole, and

cut off a pig of money, insurance companies felt they were 'entitled' to.

O’bama was between a rock and a hard place,

fearing the unleashing of a HUGE LOBBYING effort

on behalf of the industry and the rich, he caved,

to avoid a showdown at 12:00 noon,

this is the best he could wring from the rich,

and now, the rest is history

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