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How Obamacare will hurt Delta County

November 5, 2013

WASHINGTON — The relationship doctors develop with their patients can last a lifetime, extend to entire families, and last for generations....

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Spartytruth

Nov-05-13 10:05 AM

What a crock. If people vote for this guy they are insane.

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perplexed

Nov-05-13 11:22 AM

As usual the author of the article is way off pass and is a simply a tool of the Tea Party. I am happy we only have to put up with him being in office one more year.

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rasmsa13

Nov-05-13 12:24 PM

Oh here we go. This is the best the Teapublicans got. I can't wait to vote you out!

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Vauche

Nov-05-13 1:55 PM

The previous comments on here are by people who obviously have their heads in the sand and can't see reality.

Stop for a second your partisan BS and teaparty cracks and see what is actually going on. If you can't even accept the truth when you hear it we are all doomed.

I mean you don't have to become a teaparty member or give up your liberal progressive BS (would be nice though) to see that Obamacare has been one big lie after another.

This was a good quality article. It had the facts. It had the truth of what IS happening not what Obama said would happen. You can change our congressman all you want but if you think that will change the outcome of Obamacare you're living in la la land.

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Vauche

Nov-05-13 2:07 PM

How about just once any of you offer up any credible evidence that Mr. Benishek is off-base in this article.

What exactly did he get wrong?

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Cheesehead

Nov-05-13 2:55 PM

“Credible Evidence”?

“What exactly did he get wrong? “

Evidently, nothing, that you were capable of determining, on your own,

before you cast your minion-like vote in the affirmative.

He convinced voters such as yourself, to vote for him,

and now we will have to prove that you and him are wrong.

Don’t forget the part where he ‘stashed money away in a landholding management scheme

to willfully hide and deprive his wife and children of more alimony and child-support

during his divorce…

Like any good republican, like any good member of the rich, like any good corporation,

they are short on moral responsibility.

A case his former wife “won” in court, and proved him WRONG…

“Credible Evidence” ?

Indeed!

onto the next challenge, bring it on

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concernedresident

Nov-05-13 2:57 PM

He hasn't said anything wrong, in fact he's only stating the obvious, or what we should already know. Because the facts of the case make Obama and Democrats look bad doesn't mean it's simply a Tea Party, right-wing piece. It's just facts. And if you question the writer's integrity, he has been practicing up here, I'm a veteran and he does a lot of veteran work at the VA as well.

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concernedresident

Nov-05-13 3:02 PM

Cheesehead, I'm having a hard time connecting the dots on what his personal issues have to do with this piece? I'm coming up with nothing at all. How credible do you think we might find you if we knew all your dirty laundry? Especially when it has nothing to do with a point you wanna make.

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Cheesehead

Nov-05-13 3:02 PM

Spartlytruth,

insanity rules.

how do you think the republikans, the rich and the corporations got laws passed to exempt them from the same laws that apply to the poorer 98%.

80,000 pages of tax code.

any number of laws that don't apply EQUALLY, unless you have the MONEY to garner dispensatory dispensation from a higher authority.

Stack the laws, stack the courts, and

stack the candidates for public office.

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Cheesehead

Nov-05-13 3:11 PM

concern'd,

personal life, public life,

they form the foundation upon whitch character is built or accumulated.

of coarse, moral inebtitude has nothing or does it have everything to do with charecter?

i can't reply to tht whitch you don't / can't comprehend or understand.

the 'playing' field of knowledge is not level, and i don't have the time, or inclination to edgeukate

personal life, public life, and what you can hide from the public makes for good politicians republikans or donkeys alike.

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wereintroublenow

Nov-05-13 4:37 PM

Cheesehead babbles on attempting to look intelligent, but has said nothing of substance yet. Look at all of his comments. You babble on without any fact and want us to believe you are credible. If you think corporations are so bad, start one up you bad boy, when your an owner of a business and your busting your butt for 12 to 18 hours a day just to make ends meet and then come home and see some idiot like you bad mouthing business owners as if we all get something we dont deserve, well if its so great, start one up. you can ride in on the gravy train too. Except your a hapless lazy complainer.

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Vauche

Nov-05-13 5:22 PM

Moral high ground arguement? As if the liberal progressives and dems don't have their own with the same problems. Get real! Stick to the article.

You can blame everything on corporations if you want but it was Obama who lied about health care. The business community was pretty up front about the consequences of this bill. I'm not saying you got to like it but I can say they told you so.

I would also point out that conservatives have been pointing to increased premiums for quite some time now as well. Logic and reason win the day here, not hope and change. You add 30M new people, some with previous conditions (not a bad thing) common sense tells you someone has to pay for it.

The most recent Obama failure. "If you like your plan you can keep it". Not only is this showing not to be the case but there's mounting evidence Mr. O knew it wouldn't be the case.

How do you refute this in terms of mean ole rich republican teabaggers? They didn't vote this in.

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frogleggs

Nov-06-13 11:35 AM

How could an ed·u·cat·ed individual refer to the idea of:

MoRal HigH gRound

and

include any reference to

the rich

the republicans

the democrats

their corporations

their tax dodges and

their off shore bank accounts

is, at best both,

Moronic

And

Ox·Y·Moronic

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Vauche

Nov-07-13 1:50 PM

Uhm, Frog please look back at my post your reference.

Have you done this?

Ok, now look at Cheese's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd post here.

Do you see the connection? My post was in response to Cheese's false argument that he gives a dang about a politicians personal life. The point is, he only cares if this person doesn't fall on the same side of the aisle as his views.

My point is this argument is totally falacious as both parties have their fill of moral ineptitude. As Cheese is quick to defend any democrat, Clinton and/or Obama as examples I can only assume he believes these folks of higher moral character, which they are not.

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whiteagle38

Nov-09-13 7:25 PM

What the Hey? It will sure be better than it is now with the health insurance industry saying what doctor, what hospital, how much and then they cut you off. whiteagle38

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:09 AM

DANdy doktor Dan,

How does anything that provides thirty million

men,

women and children,

access to healthcare they never had…

HOW, INDEED, DOES THAT HURT DELTA COUNTY…

HOW, INDEED, DOES THAT HURT THE UPPER PENINSULA, and it’s people?

MAYBE, LIKE YOU,

IT HURTS THEIR ABILITY TO PROCLAIM SELFISHNESS, PRIVLEGE, AND DENIAL to others...

What rhymes with free congressional PERK?

JERK...

I SAY!

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:13 AM

To deny any possible chance for access to healthcare is

HYPOCRITICAL,

SELFISH, AND

SAYING THIS, while calling yourself a doKtor MAKES YOUR INTENTIONS

BOORISH,

like most everything else you say,

based on your BEING A DOCTOR,

as though you have developed some sort, of HALO,

that grant‘s you privilege to

LEND CREDIENCE to YOUR BOGUS

- party-line,

republican, selfish thinking!

DANdy Dan doKtor, you are full of yourself,

and over estimate

OUR INTELLIGENCE,

at least for those of us who are

NOT RICH,

NOT CORPORATIONS,

NOT REPUBLICANS,

NOT WORKING, AT jobs that pay anything remotely resembling

pay ABOVE the poverty level, established by the government

that pays

YOUR HEALTHCARE,

YOUR PENSION, AND

YOUR PERKS.

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:16 AM

I SAY,

refute this DANdy doktor dan:

HOW MANY PEOPLE,

in need of IMMEDIATE MEDICAL CARE to save their life,

WILL CRY OUT:

“Wait, I don’t want ANYONE TOUCHING ME,

except MY FAMILY DOCTOR,

let me lie here,

LET ME DIE HERE INSTEAD.

DANdy BOGUS doKtor dan,

The rest of your rant is

BOGUS,

YOUR LOGIC IS BOGUS..

YOUR PARTSIAN PARTY-LINE REPUBLICAN POLICIES ARE

BOGUS...

to call yourself a dr. is a stretch,

if you feel that

DENYING THIRTY MILLION MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN,

POTENTIAL PATIENTS,

ARE WRONG

in wanting access to healthcare like you already have?

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:18 AM

BOGUS ARGUMENT #2

DANdy doKtor dan:

YOU SAY:

“Unfortunately, President Obama's new health care law will weaken that bond ...

[of personal relationships].”

I SAY:

REALISTICALLY,

what is MORE important...

that 30,000,000, thirty million of our neighbors will have

ACESSS to HEALTHCARE… where,

PREVIOUSLY, they NEVER had ACCESS to healthcare…

REALLY, do you think 30 million people care about ‘relationships’

when their life is held in the balance,

when death is calling, and

they WILL INDEED have some form of MEDICAL CARE?

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:21 AM

YOU danDY doKtor Dan, have federal health insurance,

NO WHERE are YOU guaranteed to see the same doctor,

in any FEDERAL FACILITY,

nor will you probably ever develop a ’relationship’ WITH ANY DOCTOR,

unless you fly home to see your so-called family doc, at the VA Facility,

where you get free health care, in Iron Mountain.

Our active and inactive military

NEVER, EVER, see the same doctor

while they are in the military, unless by a miracle.

DANdy doKtor, how many years have you been in private practice?

How many years were you guaranteed employment through the VA, a livelihood of perks and income, guranteed by the people who fought for you?

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Cheesehead

Nov-10-13 11:23 AM

BOGUS ARGUMENT #1

DANdy doKtor dan:

You Say:

“The relationship doctors develop with their patients can last a lifetime,

extend to entire families, and last for generations“

I SAY:

WHY DO MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCESS TO HEALHCARE,

why ARE THEY THE MOST VOCAL about denying thirty million men, women and children, access to healthcare,

that they themselves ALREADY HAVE?

BULL..roar. DanDy doktor, YOUR CLAIM that "relationships' is more important is BOGUS, particularly in emergency situations or having NO MEDICAL CARE

AT ALL ...

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Vauche

Nov-11-13 11:49 AM

The only thing you got right Cheese was in your third post down in your rant (second post up) when you said Banishek was over estimating your intelligence. You certainly hit the nail on the head there!

Falisy #1 - you argue these 30M didn't have access to health care in an emergency. WRONG! It is against the law for any hospital to turn away any patient in any life threatening circumstance.

Falisy #2 - Most of these 30M could have applied for Medicaid. Problem is they would have to fill out paper work. Something I might add they are not so good at doing, even when for their children. Some of these 30M choose not carry health insurance because they are healthy.

Falisy #3 - Your family doctor will not be the one treating you in the case of an emergency. They are not trained in that field. However, for check-up and maintenance yes, you can and do build a relationship with your family doctor such that it is feasible they would be the only doctor you would want to see.

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Vauche

Nov-11-13 11:58 AM

Falisy #4 - More important than these 30M getting insurance is the 300M who will be effected by this bill. Some losing the insurance they had. Some not being able to afford the new insurance the will have to buy. Beyond that, cost to the taxpayer. We can not afford this.

Falisy #5 - Your argument about the VA is non-sensical. Also, the VA is government run medical care and it stinks. Talk to most any veteran and they will tell you the care is not the same as a non-VA hospital. Yet this is the system, governmental control and regulations, you are preaching for here.

There's more falisies in your post Cheese but we will just leave it for now with YES Banishek most certainly over estimated your intelligence.

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Abraham

Nov-11-13 7:57 PM

Benishek is so out of touch and biased, I'm embarrassed he's our rep.

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Cheesehead

Nov-11-13 10:45 PM

I was a republican…

once...

but got sick of listening to the weasels,

the rich republicans, democrats, and their corporations,

continually crying about this, that, and everything else,

all of which their

“cries” (alarm)

were cleverly disguised in

wolf’s clothing!

MG, there are still too many of them living and breathing, amongst us,

fouling the air,

fouling the water,

fouling the ground,

and fouling the

American Way of Life!

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