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5 dogs killed by wolves

DNR confirms kill; questions remain

August 27, 2013

MARQUETTE — Though questions remain about the incident, Michigan Department of Natural Resources wildlife biologists have confirmed wolves killed at least five hunting dogs in Chippewa County earlie......

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Vauche

Aug-27-13 2:57 PM

Yes, no compensation but shoot one of those dang things out of season or legal area and just watch how fast the state wants to be compensated.

If the state claims the animals belong to them then they should have to compensate for any damage they do to personal property/possesions.

It would also be nice if for once they didn't wait for something bad to happen before some kind of management was put in place. Proactive, not reactive!

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EStacey

Aug-27-13 4:11 PM

Well, you can shoot every Wolf you see, and you'll still have 'incidents' of them harming livestock, deer, and.. beagles.. And no, the idea that "The State" is responsible for the damage done by a wild animal doesn't fly.. any more than "The State" being responsible for someone shooting or running over someone because they issued them a hunting or drivers license.. Strange to me is how 'many' of these reports I haven't heard over the past years.. But suddenly, because legislation is in order we hear it over and over.. ad nauseum.. If 'the people' want a wolf hunt, then it's up to 'the people' to vote on in or out.. not someone trying to get re-elected by grabbing an issue

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arealyooper

Aug-27-13 5:02 PM

This wolf problem is getting out of hand!! Yes you do hear about the dogs they kill,as well as cows and other farm animals. Now think about all the fawns that are getting wiped out because of these killing machines!! Well when you are out in your blind this year and you are wondering where all the deer are,think about the wolves!!! The only way this problem is going to go away, is for the hunters of the U.P to take matters into their own hands!! We need to make November 15th-30th open season on wolves!!! If you want to complain that there are no deer to shoot and you do not want to see the wolves killed, then you are an idiot!!!!!!!

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Vauche

Aug-28-13 12:35 AM

I'm sorry, but if people shot every wolf they saw it would most certainly make a difference. That is how they got on the endangered list to begin with after all.

Saying that, I personally don't want to wipe out the wolf population. I would like population control and put some fear of humans and their dwellings back into the animals.

As for the deer population, no killing all the wolfs would probably result in little difference in fawn recruitment as coyotes would just move in and resume where the wolfs left off.

My argument for wolf hunts is primarily based in the increased audacity of the wolf population. These animals are getting bold, very bold and it needs to be curbed before it's not "just" a dog getting attacked.

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trentroy

Aug-28-13 12:00 PM

There's something wrong with this story, one dog was found days later emaciated, yet Mr. McGuire didn't want him, he said to adopt it out. Just doesn't sound right. If you let your dogs run loose in the woods, sure, they may become prey. To the wolves, dogs are competition for food.

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smarterthanyou

Aug-28-13 12:27 PM

Where are the comments about irresponsible dog owners allowing their dogs to run loose? Maybe if the dog owners had been more responsible the dogs would still be alive. Perhaps? I could go on all day...

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arealyooper

Aug-28-13 3:08 PM

smarterthanyou You do not have a clue!!! They were training their dogs,which is perfectly legal!! Perhaps you should educate yourself on the topic before making ignorant staements!!!!! It is the people that never step foot in the woods of the U.P, that love the wolves and make stupid comments!!

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smarterthanyou

Aug-28-13 3:22 PM

yooper, I have more than a clue. If the dogs were being trained then where were the owners when the dogs were killed? I am well educated on the topic of training dogs...neither of mine have been killed by wolves. Likely because I'm a responsible owner. Regarding your comment about "ignorant statements," as I sit at this computer I can assure you that when I look out the window I'm seeing more "woods of the U.P." than you would ever expect. If I could post a picture I would, it's really beautiful...but the drive to the grocery store is a bit long. Don't see any wolves chewing up my dogs either.

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yukonduke

Aug-28-13 9:29 PM

I think that tom casp. guy has something too do with this ill bet on it to many inconsistes ill bet they put them dogs out to be killed buy the wolves they new what would happen ill bet tom knows them people from ohio

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arealyooper

Aug-28-13 11:04 PM

smarterthanyou Once again you make a stupid statement, it is obvious you must have bird dogs,however the other guy was running Beagles and you are not next to your dogs when they are chasing rabbits. I guess once again you need to educate yourself on the subject before running off at the mouth!! By any chance are you from Detroit??? lol. As far as where you live, I too am in a rural area,right smack in the middle of the woods with not another house in sight.However we have seen wolves on our land as well as bear,deer and every other animal that runs these woods. Please educate yourself on running hares with Beagles before making any more ignorant statements!!!!!!

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MikeHawkburns420

Aug-28-13 11:33 PM

If your gonna be in the woods, you SHOULD have a gun. You should also keep a eye on your animals, training them or just walking them. The dogs are your responsibility and your bringing them or living in wolf country.

I live in a rural area as well, and would take the wolves over the murderers and crackheads of downstate and day.

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frogleggs

Aug-29-13 9:22 AM

Just saying,

WHO, I wonder, did native americans designate to manage the wild animal populations before we arrived on these shores, lands, and rivers?

Surely, our native american friends must have been equally ‘concerned’ over disproportionate praying animal population(s) and their welfare, both the animals and their own?

What would native americans say about our ‘management’ of OUR WILDLIFE ?

jus saying…

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skippadoodoo

Aug-29-13 10:04 AM

Senator Casperson is using this incident as another excuse to hunt and kill Wolves. Folks that deliberately take their dogs into Wolf country for chasing wild life get what they deserve when one of their animals is killed. This guy says he loves his dogs but one of his dogs (who was described as "emaciated" by the shelter) showed up at a local shelter and he would not claim his dog. What kind of love is that? Dogs have no business harassing wild life and responsible dog owners keep their dogs on leash or under direct supervision when there is a reasonable chance that harm may come to them. This area had another incident last year where a beagle (hunting dog) was killed by a Wolf.

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EStacey

Aug-29-13 7:41 PM

@Vauche, I couldn't agree with you more in that Wolves were put on the endangered list because their population dwindled due to 'over killing' and 'natural selection' But what we have here is a 'few' (and I mean a very few) stories, scary enough to cause folks to shake in their boots.. "Your kids and dogs are being slaughtered by wolves!, grab your gun and shoot'em!" - In reality, I've heard no MORE or LESS stories in all the years I've been here about 'Wolves' - Except hunters who hate them because they go after the precious DEER they hunt.. Dogs being killed?.. Jeepers, one story had the dogs in a PEN, unable to run away or properly defend themselves.. this story is about 'Beagles'.. Gosh! Poor defenseless creatures.. Coulda been killed by a BEAR, but no.. a Wolf Done it!..

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EStacey

Aug-29-13 7:45 PM

Casperson, is a pretty decent fellow. he's also a politician.. now, stop for a second. "Who has NICE things to say about a politician"? Oh, I know.. if he's bringing home the bacon you enjoy, you're all for him and his rhetoric.. If he's touching on a subject you care little about, you've tuned him out.. who cares!.. But what I see happening is that he's begun to 'champion' the cause of the Wolf Hunt.. to include (and he actually patted himself on the back on this).. legislation that would be 'immune' to 'Voter intervention' or, (gasp!) any group being able to launch an argument.. is that fair? is that how we do things?.. Then brag about it?... He's a Politician, and we all know you can tell when they're lying.. yeah, their lips are moving!

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Whizzywhig

Aug-30-13 10:14 AM

No. “Casperson, is a pretty decent fellow…”

But it is

HIS

POLITICS that STINKs !

as far as the majority of his constituents in his district that earn their living by hourly work, believe.

It’s FINE, for republican main-liners,

and for snider and his dogged

following of the dictates of the

republican led u.s. chamber of non-commerce, and

the american legislative exchange council,

ALEC.

Casperson’s POLITICS STINK,s

And voters must be MINDFUL of this,

when he tries a ’run’ for congress!

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Whizzywhig

Aug-30-13 10:16 AM

“Casperson, is a pretty decent fellow…”

That, can generally be said when you speak with the person.

But, and this is a huge butt,

it’s what takes place once he’s out of sight in Lansing,

that counts.

Tom was ‘voted’ into office to ‘represent’ the voters of his district,

many or most voters in his area are WAGE EARNERS.

Lip Service is one thing,

VOTING THE republican PARTY LINE, is entirely inappropriate when it

negatively impacts his constituents,

in favor of pushing his nose further up the colon of the republican party liners.

This, is NOT REPRESENTATIVE POLITICS.

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Cheesehead

Aug-30-13 10:54 AM

For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow

For he's a jolly good fellow ….

which nobody can deny

Which nobody can deny,

which nobody can deny

For he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow

For he's a jolly good fellow….

which nobody can deny?

Well, kinda,

sorta,

maybe somebody could a …

deny

anyone for a

SECOND VERSE?

These words are also sung to the same tune as:

the bear went over the mountin...

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