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55 schools in Michigan operating with deficits

June 7, 2013

LANSING (AP) — A record-high 55 Michigan school districts are operating with deficits, though this year’s final tally of financially troubled districts could drop below last year if 10 get back into......

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Whizzywhig

Jun-18-13 6:23 PM

For education,

technology and charter school companies and the Wall Streeters who back them,

it lets them cite troubled public schools to argue that the current public education system is flawed,

and to then argue that education can be improved

if PUBLIC, taxpayer MONEY is funneled away from the public school system’s priorities:

(hiring teachers,

training teachers,

reducing class size, etc.)

and into the private sector

(replacing teachers with computers,

replacing public schools with

privately run charter schools, etc.).

All for the LOVE OF MONEY, put into their private bank accounts.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-18-13 6:21 PM

Likewise,

for conservative politicians and activist-profiteers,

disproportionately bankrolled by these and other monied interests,

the “reform” argument gives them a way to

both talk about fixing education and

to bash organized labor,

all without having to mention

an economic status quo that monied interests benefit from and

thus do not want changed.

Look at the American Legislative Exchange Council, ALEC,

for being a determinant advocate for pushing public education money

into their own private and many times,

off-shore bank accounts.

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frogleggs

Jun-13-13 5:24 PM

Levi,

when i looked at the 'way you right',

enough said.......

But,

at least we can write!

"I want you to look at the way I write.

Now look at the way you write.

Now look at the way Whizzy & Frog write.

Enough said about that."

INDEED,

PROOF THE PUDDING

in the writing.

Enough Said.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-10-13 2:25 PM

Stacie says”

“It's actually been the

LOVE of the Democrat Party

and those ideals they carry that have

given us MOST of the heartburn in this Country, with their TAX and SPEND policies.. “

WRONG!

Stacy,

What rock did you crawl from under?

What tree have you awakened under?

Do the research.

It was

the robber barrons,

the rich,

the republicans, and

their corporations,

the plutocracy,

the oligarchies,

the aristocracy,

the monopolists,

the cartels, and

the electoral college, and

the least of which is the

Two-party system,

That brewed and fomented all of the

heartburn

Legal Americans suffered and continue to suffer to this day

and, will suffer into the foreseeable future.

YOU, stacy,

ARE

DEAD WRONG.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-10-13 2:15 PM

Stacy,

Says:

Wiki says about Engler (a Republican) ,

"His administration was characterized by

privatization of state services,

income tax reduction,

raised sales taxes 50%,

educational reform,

welfare reform and . . .

anything and everything, that made it more profitable for the rich, the republicans, and their corporations . . .

Let the ‘rest of the story say’ this:

Engler is ONE of the ORGINAL FOUNDERS of,

The American Legislative Exchange Council,

ALEC.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-10-13 2:13 PM

once you understand why

the rich,

the republicans, and

their corporations promote covertly through

The American Legislative Exchange Council, ALEC,

the U.S. chamber of commerce,

and you compare

engler’s politics,

snyder’s politics,

casperson’s politics,

mcboom’s politics,

walker’s politics,

kasich’s politics,

daniels politics,

lePage’s politics,

christies politics,

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Whizzywhig

Jun-10-13 2:07 PM

History hands us their agenda(s) in a basket,

there is no escape from historical fact,

and the fiction many are inclined to synthesize…

bold, bald- faced takeovers

of OUR governments,

the elections process and

the legislative process,

congressional puppets,

governorships,

courts of appeal,

our institutions,

social,

economic, and

infrastructures,

schools and public employment.

Refute this with recognized academic sources . . .

if you can . . .

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BravesRock

Jun-08-13 10:24 AM

Both the Engler (Rep.) and Granholm (Dem.) administrations helped get us into this mess, which will take years to get out of. But the current administration has done more to get Michigan back on track than three terms of Engler and two of Granholm combined. I do not agree with everything the Snyder administration has done, but they have done much that I do support. We cannot spend our way out of this situation. We have to find new ways to educate our kids and do it more cost effectively. Districts need to accept that the "good old days" are gone, and they weren't that good anyway.

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EStacey

Jun-08-13 8:48 AM

Just a foot note... Wiki says about Engler (a Republican) , "His administration was characterized by privatization of state services, income tax reduction, raised sales taxes 50%, educational reform, welfare reform and major reorganization of executive branch departments." Sure, sure.. you see the Education reform in there, but it just flys right over your head.. you see labor issues there too.. but hey!.. ANYTHING 'anti-union' is bad, bad, bad.. Still.. there's NOTHING you or I or anyone can do about the successes of the Engler Administration.. only complain about the failures. We have a right to do that, complain, some do it loudly and for no real reason.. others loudly without facts.. and still others.. well, you get the idea..

Have a nice day!

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Fireguy016

Jun-08-13 8:47 AM

I gladly stand corrected EStacey,and whole heartedly agree with you.

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EStacey

Jun-08-13 8:43 AM

Well, Fireguy016 - I hate to be the one to argue with you, but John Engler was the Governor from 1991 to 2003.. Less than a decade ago.. So, I don't know where you come off saying that Democrats, for Decades.. blah, blah, blah (Rhetoric).. Y'know any leadership, state or federal is only as effective as those who support that person.. or, who do not stand in front of decisions they have made.. It's actually been the LOVE of the Democrat Party and those ideals they carry that have given us MOST of the heartburn in this Country, with their TAX and SPEND policies.. Got a problem?.. just throw money at it, where do you get the money?.. Well, TAX, TAX, TAX - No wait a second the Democrat buzz word for tax is REVENUE!.. as if it were an income..

Again John Engler was a Republican

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Fireguy016

Jun-08-13 8:38 AM

Frogleggs,Whizzywhig Enough said when we resort to name calling ie.(dead ashes guy) I know that the point has been made that can't be argued with any facts or logic.It is nice to see other people on here who worry more about the substanance of the story and not set in their personnal ideology.

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frogleggs

Jun-07-13 10:24 PM

Given the complexity with which our state funds public education,

we are awfully lucky that more public schools cannot cope with legislators’ political expediencies.

Our state legislators should receive a grade for their convoluted school financing schemes and formulations.

Most voters,

if the truth were made widely known,

would flunk these people on the spot.

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frogleggs

Jun-07-13 10:24 PM

Whizzywig,

Don’t argue with facts, daily press readers have the facts …

as they see them, nothing will broaden their scope.

Don’t confuse them with facts.

BTW, don’t pick on

the rich,

the Republicans,

the Democrats, and

their Corporations.

Congress and Republicans, have given these entities the facility to

Walk on Water, and like some religions preach,

they can DO NO WRONG

- AND SHOULD at any COST, be held UN-accountable, and harmless!

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frogleggs

Jun-07-13 10:17 PM

Number of Public Schools In Michigan

There are Three (3) types of Schools in Michigan:

Intermediate School Districts: 57

Local Education Authorities: 549

Public School Academy’s: 278

Educational Achievement Auth: 1

Total Public Schools 883

So, the deficit rate for these schools is about .062%.

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frogleggs

Jun-07-13 10:13 PM

And then,

We have a miscellaneous batch of Schools that have no legal compulsion to report anything,

but, nonetheless, should be included, as many of these non-public schools receive some kind of financial aid or reimbursement in kind,

but due to legalese are kept off the state reporting roles.

Number of Institutional Non-Public Schools

798

The combined total of schools in Michigan is about

1681.

So, if the total number of schools which may or may not report to the state of Michigan, are included,

the deficit rate is about .032%

IF ONLY,

there were statistics to compare the many department in the state of Michigan that are financially volatile and politically dependent?

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Whizzywhig

Jun-07-13 9:40 PM

DeadAshesGuy,

(where there's smoke, a fire is soon to errupt)

If you haven’t done enough research to avail yourself of recorded and published “Facts”, there is no sense to engage you in meaningful prose.

You might, in time become familiar with history.

Meanwhile, I’m old, my time is finite, and you certainly don’t deserve my breathe, effort, or enlightenment.

There is plenty to be found by reading books, and studied examination on the internet.

Approach me when you show you have at least become a student of the immediate past economic, and political history.

Start with henry ford’s reaction to declining sales of his model T automobile.

Of course, you already know the answer, so why should anyone bother to enhance your ignorance?

If you have improved upon your knowledge base … ?

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Fireguy016

Jun-07-13 3:55 PM

Whizzywhig is there anything you can say without finding some way to add the rich,republicans,corporations etc.As far as I see Michigan has been run by Democrats for decades and we see where that has gone.Taken a beautiful State run it in the ground and make it a butt of jokes.Just saying........

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EStacey

Jun-07-13 3:19 PM

Well, 55 is a big number eh? - Flash! most of the State is operating under budgeted (no argument they may be wasting the budgets they have, take the DDA here in Escanaba for instance, but I digress).. While 55 schools sounds like a big number.. 500 'districts' with, oh.. I dunno.. K-12 (Elementary, Middle, and High schools.. at least means 1500 schools). The 55 means something like 4 percent of the total schools.. the other 96 percent are doing "OK".. that's not bad!.. I wish these news reports were not so misleading of facts.. Yes, ANY school struggling is bad.. and any waste is equally bad.. but 4 percent of Michigan Schools are operating in the the RED?... that's not really THAT bad!..

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Whizzywhig

Jun-07-13 2:31 PM

Leviticus 99,

You have only proved one (1) point.

You’re still dumb, dumber than me !

Only.

Only when you get to the realization that 99 % of America’s troubles have their root in the republicans, the rich, and their corporations, and their two party legalized robbery system,

will you have salvation.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-07-13 11:08 AM

It’s a fact.

Not Ever,

in recent history,

has public education in this country found it as hard to exist and operate as it finds itself these days.

It’s a fact.

Not Ever,

in recent history,

have so few people made so much money, and paid so little in taxes,

since OUR CONGRESS,

at the behest of the rich,

republicans and poorer democrats,

their corporations, applied so much pressure to concoct 80,000 pages of IRS tax code shenanigans called tax breaks for the rich republicans and their corporations.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-07-13 11:08 AM

It’s a fact.

Not Ever,

in recent history,

has public education in this country found it as hard to exist and operate as it finds itself these days.

It’s a fact.

Not Ever,

in recent history,

have so few people made so much money, and paid so little in taxes,

since OUR CONGRESS,

at the behest of the rich,

republicans and poorer democrats,

their corporations, applied so much pressure to concoct 80,000 pages of IRS tax code shenanigans called tax breaks for the rich republicans and their corporations.

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Whizzywhig

Jun-07-13 11:06 AM

It’s a fact.

Every publicly financed form of government has lost revenue with which to keep operating, while the demands upon these institutions for services, keep growing.

It’s a fact.

Since the rich and their two-party system have created the means to co-opt democracy, and circumvent employing their U.S. customers,

by dismantling regulatory oversight,

outsourcing Legal, American, OUR jobs.

It’s a fact.

We were cheated by the rich,

their two-party system,

the republicans and

their corporations.

And, no one is serving jail time for their moral breakdown.

Take the time to study and examine causes and effects,

Surely, someone might prove to be smarter than me and add more depth…

It’s a fact.

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