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New playground construction moves forward

May 3, 2013

ESCANABA — Construction is moving “full steam ahead” on a new playground being built on the southwest side of Escanaba, council was informed at its regular meeting Thursday....

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Whizzywhig

May-10-13 6:09 PM

Bravesrock,

Here are some interesting government figures, that poke holes in your porported "arugument".

Your ‘argument’ for the rich, and their business and corporations doesn’t hold much water, let alone value, and with government statistics on overall tax rates, proves that what you say is bogus.

While the top marginal tax rate on ordinary income is 39.6 percent, average rates that a household in the upper income bracket pays is less.

Much of the earnings of those in the top income bracket come from capital gains, interest and dividends, which are taxed at a maximum of 15 percent.

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Whizzywhig

May-10-13 6:07 PM

Also, because only income up to $106,800 is subject to payroll taxes of 15.3%,

which are paid by the employer and employee,

individuals in the upper income bracket pay on average an effective rate not much different than that of other income brackets.

The effective tax rate paid by an individual in the upper income bracket is dependent on the ratio of income they earn from capital gains, interest and dividends.

Wonder why Romney stood firm in refusing to make his tax returns public, but followed through on an earlier promise to release his 2011 return?

It showed he paid $1.9 million in taxes on more than $13 million in income – an effective tax rate of 14.1 percent…

MUCH LESS, than the ‘announced IRS top tax rate of 39%, you do see this bravesrock?

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Whizzywhig

May-10-13 6:05 PM

For the top 400 income earners in the U.S. the average tax rate is just 18%.

Are you getting this bravesrock?

* In federal fiscal year 2011 (October 1, 2010 to September 30, 2011), the federal government collected $2.30 trillion in revenues, which were comprised of

47% individual income taxes,

36% social insurance taxes,

08% corporate income taxes,

03% excise taxes,

01% custom duties,

0.3% estate and gift taxes, and

04% miscellaneous receipts.

* In 2011, state and local governments collected $1.38 trillion in taxes, which were comprised of

33% sales taxes,

32% property taxes,

21% individual income taxes,

03% corporate income taxes, and

01% social insurance taxes.

Bravesock, keep up the bogus thinking, you’re batting a 1000%.

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baglady

May-07-13 2:15 PM

How about fixing the "main street" ?

How long will the street continute to crumble before it turns to gravel, and the city can make a one-rut road - easy and cheap to maintain !

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frogleggs

May-07-13 8:50 AM

Bravesrock,

Possibly getting older, for some, is inevitable, for this we can agree.

But, to state that you have gotten “wiser” is really debatable, and questionable to say the least.

Perhaps, it would be more prophetic, pathetic, to say you have gotten “older” but certainly NOT WISER.

How about you give some time addressing those business and corporation tax amounts paid of 8% and 3% for federal and state levels, respectively?

Apparently, 39% 36%, 35%, that you say the rich pay is somewhat EXAGERATED?

Fair share?

Take a look at wizzies tax figures again, maybe he’s ‘enlightened” you, and you weren’t wize enough to notice ?

Apparently, the rich and corporations continually point at the high tax rate for a show of pity, but they never boast about the low or non-payment of taxes they are able to legally set aside.

Braves, the rich and the corporate pirates snookered you, and you didn't even notice !

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BravesRock

May-06-13 5:43 PM

The capital gains tax rate of 15 percent encourages people (middle income and "rich" people) to invest, which helps keep our economy growing. I will admit there was a time when I shared many of your views, at least to a point, but as I got older and wiser, I realized how much business owners, large and small, invest in our communities and how vital they are to our economy.

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Whizzywhig

May-06-13 3:01 PM

Bravesock,

Your ‘arugment’ for the rich, and their business and corporations doesn’t hold much value,

and with government statistics on overall tax rates, proves that what you say is bogus.

While the top marginal tax rate on ordinary income is 39.6 percent,

average rates that a household in the upper income bracket pays is less.

Much of the earnings of those in the top income bracket come from capital gains, interest and dividends, which are taxed at a maximum of 15 percent.

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Whizzywhig

May-06-13 3:00 PM

Also because only income up to $106,800 is subject to payroll taxes of 15.3%,

which are paid by the employer and employee,

individuals in the upper income bracket pay on average an effective rate not much different than that of other income brackets.

The effective tax rate paid by an individual in the upper income bracket is dependent on the ratio of income they earn from capital gains, interest and dividends.

Wonder why Romney stood firm in refusing to make his tax returns public,

but followed through on an earlier promise to release his 2011 return.

It showed he paid $1.9 million in taxes on more than $13 million in income – an effective tax rate of 14.1 percent…

MUCH LESS, than the ‘announced IRS top tax rate of 39%, you see.

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Whizzywhig

May-06-13 2:59 PM

For the top 400 income earners in the U.S.,

the average tax rate was just 18%, according to U.S. Govt statistics.

* In federal fiscal year 2011 (October 1, 2010 to September 30, 2011), the federal government collected $2.30 trillion in revenues, which were comprised of

47% individual income taxes,

36% social insurance taxes,

08% corporate income taxes,

03% excise taxes,

01% custom duties,

0.3% estate and gift taxes, and

04% miscellaneous receipts.

* In 2011, state and local governments collected $1.38 trillion in taxes, which were comprised of

33% sales taxes,

32% property taxes,

21% individual income taxes,

03% corporate income taxes, and

01% social insurance taxes.

Bravesock, keep up the bogus thinking, you’re batting a 1000%.

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BravesRock

May-06-13 10:31 AM

I agree there are corporate excesses and obscene compensation for some CEOs these days, but in general those people who earn a lot of money worked hard for it, took risks others weren't willing to take to invest in their businesses, and pay their fair share. What, an income tax rate of 35 percent isn't enough for you?

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frogleggs

May-06-13 9:47 AM

Braves don’t rock much under your thinking,

YOU, need enlightening !

Of course, people make far more money, than they have motivation to ‘give-away’,

because of taxes, and tax breaks makes it possible to pocket more.

Of course, these people have just opined, “they’ll start a new business” in this area….

IF, their corporation and specifically they get a “TAX BREAK” for their reward!

Of course, while the people with money get the benefit of lessened tax loads,

the rest of US,

MUST ULTIMATELY FILL THE VOID,

or make-up what TAXES they legally avoid paying.

OTHER WAGE EARNERS, must either cough-up what the rich and their businesses don’t pay,

or suffer huge governmental, social, economic, and educational infrastructure break-downs.

(Have you read about what’s happening since 1999, and will continue for years?)

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frogleggs

May-06-13 9:45 AM

If, at any time you actually were a wage earner,

and you continually espouse the righteousness of the rich and their businesses, corporations,

THEN,

you have sorely fallen into their trappings

under the guise of philanthropic enterprise,

BEING MORE ACCEPTABLE,

than paying good wages,

with benefits,

like decent, affordable health care,

pension,

sick time,

paid vacation,

not forced dispensation of money in a miserly fashion to the masses.

Philanthropic ‘donations’ are merely the fiscal manifestation of having made someone else do with less,

and laws made to enable some to garner more marbles,

while the rest of us continually are forced to give up ours!

Philanthropy, is just another business enterprise, make no mistake about it.

Put that in your enlightenment joint and take a long drag brave not.

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BravesRock

May-05-13 10:55 PM

Whiz, I’m going to try to enlighten you, not that it will do any good. Those with incomes in the top 1 percent in the U.S. pay 36.7 percent of all the income taxes paid in this country. The top 5 percent pay 58.7 percent, and the top 10 percent, those with adjusted gross incomes of $112,000 or more, pay over 70 percent of the income taxes collected in the U.S. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent pay 2.25 percent of the total income tax. Sounds like all those “tax breaks and loopholes” are working out real well for those “rich” people you like to blame for everything. The Besse family has invested a lot of money in our area, created a lot of good-paying jobs, and have given millions of their hard-earned dollars back to the community. What they have given back to the local area far exceeds any tax breaks they have received. Take your meds and quit whining.

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MikeHawkburns420

May-05-13 6:20 PM

tailgator, quit reading and replying if you dont like the comments.. I know ive called you a dumb*ss before, but use some common sense and DONT comment(that would save on alot of the ignorant comments). Im tired of hearing you talk sh*t about cannabis When you KNOW NOTHING on the subject... How your wife and kids put up with your simple mind is beyond me, maybe miss tailgator has another man in mind and thats why your always b*tching.. :)

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WhoWee

May-05-13 12:48 PM

They should name it "We Hate Everything and Everyone so Get Out and Stay Out of OUR Park" donated by the friendly citizens of Escanaba

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Whizzywhig

May-04-13 8:59 PM

70,000 plus pages of congressional tax breaks and loopholes at the behest of the rich and their corporations,

provide the incentive to legally avoid paying taxes for acquiring too much money.

Workers and employees often wonder why their work ethic couldn’t be more properly rewarded, healthcare, pensions, sick time, vacation time, better incentives and wages, are just among a few items that come to mind.

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Whizzywhig

May-04-13 8:58 PM

But, never mind rewarding those who put forth their effort to increase their employers’ cash flow,

and the rewards for business owners are always how to avoid paying more taxes,

and of course public recognition when “philanthropy” are exuded, always increases their over imbued “self-worth”.

Of course, employee healthcare, pensions, and better wages aren’t as noteworthy.

Better wages, and pensions don’t receive tax breaks in the traditional sense, nor does the payment of these items to employees receive press attention or public praise.

Without creating a fuss, unionizing, or striking,

employees share what few crumbs are dropped from their masters’ tables,

usually not enough to upgrade their American Standard of Living, or the American Way of Life, these days,

from republican led economic imperialism over their servant workers.

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frogleggs

May-03-13 3:01 PM

Yes, What is "Happening with/to Tapani Field" ?

Anyone?

More appropriately, anything given to the public, perhaps should be memorialized for the people, who labored for John and made it possible to acquire funds not directly reflective of his employees’ efforts.

If not in the name and memory of his employees,

certainly Melissa Besse needs to be remembered foremost.

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puckrock

May-03-13 11:23 AM

Tapani Field anyone?

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