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Biodiversity is not ending

March 5, 2013

LANSING — Chicken Little famously exclaimed, “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!” Today, as you may have recently read, environmentalists hysterically proclaim, “Biodiversity is ending!......

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perplexed

Mar-05-13 11:12 AM

It is obvious that Casperson did not write this and that it was written by one of his build, cut and drill every thing and place financial supporters. The whole article is hogwash and any reasonable person should see it for what is: simply a method for him to receive more money from that element that wants to end all parks and wildlife preserves. Oh I forgot that they do not contribute to his war chest, so the H with those public holdings.

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Shlort

Mar-05-13 11:49 AM

Tom is spot on here.

Personally, I believe the people are being held hostage by environmental extremists in this country. That is leading to a global environmental disaster (see China for example).

The biggest mistake this Nation has made on environmental policy is giving extremists a place at the table of debate.

Our natural resources should not be "hands off". We should use them. We can cut trees because we replant. We can monitor the environmental impact of drilling and mining in the US.

Don't want it here? Take a look at what China has going on and the global pollution being created without regulation. Environmental extremists drove those smoke stacks to China. Mexico? Same thing. The planet would be better off if they had stayed here.

We take care of the planet while others rape it around the globe. We replant when other Nations allow a "slash and dash" attitude. We use Natural Resources. Lets keep the planet safe and use our own.

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Whizzywhig

Mar-06-13 3:04 PM

Money, money, money

Must be funny

In the rich man's world

Money, money, money

Always sunny

In the rich man's world

Aha-ahaaa ....

All the things I could do

If I had a little money

It's a rich man's world

It's a rich man's world

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Whizzywhig

Mar-06-13 3:07 PM

pp,

You’re an awful angry whelp for having the temerity to suggest that our elected leaders are anything less than…

forthright,

truthful,

candid,

leaders, and

sober…

Don’t you know that it’s a rich man’s world?

Or, at least the politicians and lobbyist’s they can approach…

with…

gift’s of money.

So what, if they want to

pollute OUR air

pollute OUR ground,

pollute OUR water,

They have the termidity to steal our natural resources whatever they may be…

wherever they may be...

Oil, coal, natural gas,

and exchange them for

MONEY,

MONEY,

in

THEIR

POSSESSION.

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Whizzywhig

Mar-06-13 3:28 PM

Schlort,

Do you

EVEN

REALIZE

What you said, are saying?

Does oxymoronic mean anything to you?

Quote Schlort: and contradiction #1

“Don't want it here?

Take a look at what China has going on and the global POLLUTION being created WITHOUT REGULATION”

(capitalization added for emphasis)

Quote Schlort: and contradiction #2

“ENVIRONMENTAL EXTREMISTS drove those smoke stacks to China.

Mexico? Same thing.

The planet would be better off if they had stayed here.”

(AND POLLUTED HERE without regulation as well, schlort?)

Baloney!

Regulation is needed to stem the monetary need to take everyones environment, by business and the rich, for their own profit!

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Shlort

Mar-07-13 2:26 PM

Whizzy, first off, learn how to read the English language. China has no regulation, hence the global problem. Get it? We had regulations here and wanted more and drove these manufacturing jobs to Cnina and Mexico. There, they run without any regualtion of any kind. So, I would conclude we would be better off having them here with some regualtion, than to have them elsewhere with no regulation. Make sense? Or are you just too stupid to understand written word? Or is it just that you don't like what I say and need to twist the content of meaning to support your own moronic values or beliefs? It must be something. And you wonder why people can't stomach Liberals like yourself.

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frogleggs

Mar-07-13 6:41 PM

Shlort,

When and where the republicans are involved,

ALWAYS

it

is

AbOuT

MONEY.

always…

S.u.c.k-up to your republican pals,

hope they pay you well ...

and when our natural resources are gone and unemployed,

will they take care of you -?

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Whizzywhig

Mar-07-13 8:39 PM

the logging industry according to schlort:

"We can cut trees because we replant."

Schlort,

show us the tree plantations!

They are so small their invisible to the naked eye.

If trees are "re-planted", they are usually "re-planted", with cheap substitutes, quick growing, soil ruining plantings,

all to cater to special interest money, that top quality logs overseas or

sell second-rate re-growth to the toilet paper industry.

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Shlort

Mar-08-13 11:01 AM

Frog, I won't bother writing a rebuttal to that nonsense. You are stating your opinion in an attempt to discredit facts.

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Shlort

Mar-08-13 11:08 AM

Whizzy, you are obviously unwilling to inform yourself to the facts.

If you had to guess (like you apparently do always), would you say there are less trees in the USA today than there were when the White man first set foot in this country? You would guess "NO!". You would be wrong. There are more trees now than there were then. Why? Because we replant.

I don't know where you think lumber comes from or how paper is produced, but maybe you could bone up on that a little bit.

Better yet, jump in your electric solar powered car and take a ride out of town. Head out to where there has been cutting done. Observe the quality of growth in these areas that have been cut off by the timber industry. You probably won't be able to identify an areas that was cut off more than 20 years ago.

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Shlort

Mar-08-13 11:16 AM

Whizzy, here is something else for your brain to chew on.

What takes more CO 2 out of the environment, a fully mature tree, or a growing tree?

A tree stops growing when it reaches maturity, it only requires CO 2 to produce foliage. A growing tree absorbs CO 2 to grow foliage and it's trunk. What is better?

In addition to that, faster growing trees absorb more CO 2 than slow growing trees.

Basically, your attitude toward reforestation and replanting are directly the opposite of your wanted results. Anyway, don't think you are talking to some idiot here.

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:17 PM

Schlort,

I ‘guess’ you were here to count the trees every year since then!

Again Schlort,

Wizzy didn’t mention that you were the

“some idiot he was ‘talking to“.

Wonderful,

how you brought-up that fact!

Wizzy,

Are you following this?

Be sure not to call schlort and ‘idiot’,

he’s extremely insensitive about not being called an ‘idiot’…

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:20 PM

Logging of, hillsides, mountains, and land today, goes on and on, ripe with junk re-growth.

Re-planting as you so wrongly maintain,

current tree harvester’s are not doing,

except in the fast-growth Southern States, nor are they re-planting in the hard-to-re-plant areas.

Junk is junk, and primarily the land is let to re-grow itself.

Where then, is the replanting being accomplished?

I haven’t seen it lately,

since NEWPAGE tore down the junk-tree seedling greenhouse,

at one-time used for re-forestation of fast-growth junk trees...

How are the hillsides, and mountain tops out West being re-forested?

They are a blight, and washout waste-land, nearly as far as your ancient eyes can see

-you were here counting the trees before the white-man arrived …

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:20 PM

Schlort,

Wizzy didn’t call you an “IDIOT”,

You were the first to mention the fact.

Wizzy said:

“show us the tree plantations”

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:21 PM

Wizzy,

Are you following this?

Be sure not to call schlort and ‘idiot’,

he’s extremely insensitive about not being called an ‘idiot’…

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:23 PM

Schlort,

I ‘guess’ too, you were here to count the trees every year since then!

Again Schlort,

Wizzy didn’t mention that you were the “some idiot he was ‘talking to“.

Wonderful, how you brought-up that fact...

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frogleggs

Mar-08-13 5:32 PM

All wage earning Americans,

should be MORE than willing to take our chances in

H.E.L.L.,

Then to rely on,

or place any confidence in the

REPUBLICAN

PARTY

and

in their cheap, honest, hacks, or ‘politicians‘,

their chosen hired name they want to be called,

instead of “Lackey”.

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Shlort

Mar-08-13 9:19 PM

Frog, you have less credibility than Whizzy, and whizzy has none. I will not argue with you because I don't think it is right to argue with people who have such glaring mental issues.

I think you and Whizzy might be the same person. Your nonsensical ramblings are very similar. Reality awaits if you wish to seek it.

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Whizzywhig

Mar-08-13 10:46 PM

Slhort,

I will be kind to you this time only…

You cannot face reality,

because when reality is staring at you

-you’re walking away , so you never see it face to face.

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Shlort

Mar-09-13 1:11 PM

Whizzy, I will not give you a pass. I will simply dismiss you as irrelevent because you lack the logic to debate.

I don't see things your way, so I am wrong, even though there are facts and studies to back up what I said. Your side of the argument is your opinion.

Well, I don't know if you realize this or not, but delusion and an extremist attitude doesn't give you a leg to stand on in any argument.

All that is required for you to debate is an opposing point of view backed up with actual facts. That is it. It is not hard. I managed to find plenty of legitimate information online to back up what I posted. Your answer? Some name calling and a few bad attempts to make a personal jab or two.

Anyway, when you can prove your point, feel free to fire back. Otherwise, just keep believing the lies promoted by extremist, and don't bother with your feable attempts at what you think debate may be.

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gonzo1

Mar-10-13 7:07 PM

When will Casperson actually spend some time addressing real issues, rather than spending all his legislative energies pusuing his personal vendetta against the DNR? I actually used to sorta like the guy, but he seems to be using his power simply to destroy the DNR, rather than doing something positive for his constituency.

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frogleggs

Mar-11-13 3:51 PM

Yes,

Tom has some good points........

But having aligned himself into lockstep, with the rest of the Republican, rich, business and corporate American Legislative Exchange Council, mentality is not in the interest of anyone other than the rich and their bank accounts.

Aside from this minor infarction, here then, are Tom's good points:

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

Sorry Folk's...

Those are just the first five I could think of at the moment!

All kidding aside, certainly he does have some...

but, they shouldn't be made public...

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