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School election - Gladstone

February 23, 2013

GLADSTONE — Residents will have a second opportunity to weigh in on a Gladstone school millage renewal which failed during the November General Election during a special election this Tuesday....

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Michlw45

Feb-26-13 9:48 PM

I thank those who voted yes and showed continued faith in our district. To those who voted no, I hope we can earn your trust moving forward. Thank you to all who voted today--regardless of how you voted. You at least took the time to let your voice be heard.

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Whizzywhig

Feb-26-13 9:01 PM

This election is for a RENEWAL.

It is NOT another request over and above the millage that is already existent.

Mr. Milligan,

A number of people, froglegs, cheeshead, baglady and I, all with positive life experiences have lent our time and reason to illustrate those who would take the negativity of others seriously and that their attack on a school, teachers, administrator’s, and a school board elected by the people,

does not deserve serious consideration and reason for a negative vote.

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Whizzywhig

Feb-26-13 8:59 PM

My best guess is that each one of us in turn,

have tried to highlight the hypocrisy, wrongful and misguided thinking of the few dedicated to negativity, without realizing their own irrationality.

They only have the ability to chant the same garbage line after line,

even though they have not taken a serious rebuttal position in their defense,

while others have pointed out their apocryphal, disturbed thinking, which they believe to be rational.

I believe a number of us have indeed spent too much time and effort to present facts, and provide illustrations where their ideas lack merit.

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JOHN60

Feb-26-13 8:55 PM

You must be a ******* you are here.

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Whizzywhig

Feb-26-13 8:54 PM

Consider what state our Gladstone System would be today,

if such negative thinking were to prevail,

had not rational and dedicated citizens stepped up to the plate and fought for the education of our children?

What a joke on our children and the majority who have thought otherwise!

Btw, my name is whizzywig, just as yours is john?

SOS john, phil baloud tubatha

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JOHN60

Feb-26-13 7:43 PM

Bill, I give you credit you are the only one that signed your post. beside's Phil and I.

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JOHN60

Feb-26-13 7:33 PM

Bill Milligan, Frogleggs, Cheesehead, Baglady IS NOT Helping your cause. They have a entitlement attitude. And I believe Phil was just being facetious on the 50% cuts. Just like the 9 year levy. Who has that.

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Michlw45

Feb-26-13 5:55 PM

...and as for our country declining, 50 years ago we had Jim Crow laws. Thing like Strep Throat could kill you. Need I go on? Who said this: "These kids today are lazy and have no work ethic--and they're disrespectful. They are not like we were back in the day!"

Answer: Socrates 2000 or so years ago.

Each generation for 2000 years, as its gotten older and set in their ways, has mouthed the same phrase: we're in decline and it's not like it was in the good old days.

It is not a unique perspective. At all.

Wheel goes round and round. And we, today, are no more special or enlightened than any that came before us.

Including you, Phil.

Nor am I.

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Michlw45

Feb-26-13 5:42 PM

...and my position is up for re-election in 2014. Please: some of you experts run against me and rescue me from this insanity. Pretty please.

Good God.

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Michlw45

Feb-26-13 5:41 PM

A 50 percent cut in pay for school employees? So our teachers, many of whom are new in the district within the last three years and making in the low-mid 30's for a job requiring advanced degrees and continued professional development, should be making only $15-$19k, Phil? Really? They should be making Walmart greeter wages? Minimum wage? That's ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.

That is nonsensical. I want to take you seriously and hear what you're saying, but you make it impossible with your ill-informed rants that have no basis in logical reality.

Come on. Do you want to have an intelligent conversation--or are you just interested in venting? How many people in this thread so you think you've persuaded to change their vote?

I'm asking this sincerely.

--Bill Milligan

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balboud

Feb-26-13 3:22 PM

Better vote yes.The teachers are telling their students that if you don't, they will have to close the doors. Sounds like the Obama administration is alive and working up here.

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frogleggs

Feb-26-13 2:23 PM

Dumb, ditta… dumb, ditta, dumb, dumb, dumber !

And so, rolls the drum of dumb and ever dumber,

drum - drum - drum~

CaronPhil, 60John, Tubatha belbud

Amazing.

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JOHN60

Feb-26-13 1:44 PM

John is my name not like nameless cheesehead, frogleggs, whizzywhig and Baglady.

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PhilCaron

Feb-26-13 1:33 PM

Our country has been declining for 50 years when you look at the results and all that matters is results. You admit you push unprepared kids through school and facts are facts. I have been paying property taxes that have increased every year for 50 years while education standards are falling and charter schools and private schools continue to excel as other countries continue to exceed the US year after year. That same old one year lesson plan you have been using for over 50 years is not working anymore baggie but you get to walk away with all your benefits, likely a ton of unused sick time pay, and a great pension. You don't care that you are forcing older people on fixed income out of their homes or having to eat dog food to afford their meds. Just as long as your ilk can keep on taxing us into poverty - you are a happly baggielady. There should be nothing wrong with a 50% cut in pay for the school employees. I bet the shoes you have walked in for 50 years have very little wear

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Whizzywhig

Feb-26-13 1:31 PM

John 360 where is your REAL NAME?

Phil says:

“The education union is the most powerful in this country and make Teamsters look tiny.“

Phil, your assertion that you have “studied” Governments and School Districts,

is just another case of your delusional smoke and mirror rhetoric.

The republicans under the screens of

the U.S. Supreme Court, (citizens united)

the U.S. Chamber of Commerce,

the rich,

big business, and

the American Legislative Exchange Council, (ALEC),

have overwhelming out-spent any union,

especially when you consider the total spending by ALL unions for elections and lobbying by a factor was less by a factor of 10x plus!

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Whizzywhig

Feb-26-13 1:28 PM

STUDY THIS phil!

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce ALONE spent OVER $800 million dollars in the 2008 election cycle.

ALL combined UNION spending for the same election cycle amounted to just under $80 million dollars.

You Phil, really showed THE REST OF US, the amount you STUDIED!

Put that in your delusional pipe and ‘smoke’ this bit of reality!

John360 where is your REAL name?

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JOHN60

Feb-26-13 1:18 PM

Baglady, UNLESS, you use your real name you are nothing more than a Bag of hot AIR! This is about vote's, not about your 50 years of dictatorship.

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balboud

Feb-26-13 1:16 PM

Bag lady sounds like Mrs.Dix who is a 6th grade teacher who is on her computer and iPod, now iPad all during her work day. She wants to be the next Mrs.Walker,but its like a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. Truth hurts. If kids are failing, it's the fault of the teacher! Proven they are given tests and they paid others to take it for them! Why? Cause they knew they couldn't pass it!

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baglady

Feb-26-13 12:57 PM

I have one thing to say.

UNLESS, you have had at least fifty (50) plus years in association with education, and teaching,

you have nothing to speak to me about.

Period.

I lived and walked in education far more years that you have probably been alive or 'concerned' with education!

You, by contrast have not indicated anything beyond a mere hunch,

nothing based on actual classroom or educational experience.

You have nothing to give you comment credibility and the ability to back it up by walking in the trenches of education.

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tabatha

Feb-26-13 12:42 PM

Baglady your way off!

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PhilCaron

Feb-26-13 12:42 PM

Baglady the camp cook who can't keep a job better known as a teacher based upon his/her (whatever it is) comments protecting business as usual. Unlike you Baggylady I have used my real name consistently and am not afraid of my opinion or position on the issues. Those who are filled with apathy think they are doing the best they can. Claiming parents demand their little idiots are passed through means you have no accountability to your classroom or your mission in education. The only thing you want to improve is your paycheck*****the kids. You think pushing little Johnny through and into society is doing your job? You have just identified the issue with your ME ME ME mentality while losing the foundation of education. Thanks for starting to get my message and the fact it is getting better but it is only you being converted from a Baggylady to maybe someone who appreciates the truth.

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baglady

Feb-26-13 11:52 AM

Phil Caron finally found a ghostwriter, that can spell and otherwise put words into sentence-like order.

After reviewing his past rants, it is clear that he has found someone besides himself, to do the writing, and he has lent his name after the fact.

The past few rants are not his usually low caliber.

So much for more attempts to misguide the public Phil.

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baglady

Feb-26-13 11:50 AM

BTW, PHIL,

DUMBING DOWN - the education system has NOTHING to do with local school districts.

Obviously, you misrepresent yourself, when you say you have STUDIED (not much).

DUMBING DOWN - school systems, has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH

PARENTS (first and foremost),

state boards of education, and

the federal government.

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baglady

Feb-26-13 11:50 AM

Parents have DEMANDED that their children be pushed ahead,

in spite of their failure to grasp grade-level reading, writing and arithmetic in the grades, making the way for the need to

DUMB-DOWN each succeeding grade until these uneducated individuals arrive at graduation and reality!

IF YOU WERE A TEACHER, of some duration AND consequence,

even YOU would have realized that fact.

Maybe not!

So your ‘claim’ that Gladstone Schools, its administrator’s, it’s teachers, its boards of education are responsible for DUMBING DOWN local schools is

bogus,

imaginary, and

inaccurate!

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PhilCaron

Feb-26-13 11:29 AM

Gladstone and most all public schools are continuing to dumb down our children on the world stage so being the best in the State means little when our education system ***** as compared to other countries due to little competition or few reasons to do better. The only thing that gets better is their pay every year. Colleges have force students to study 5 or 6 years to get a degree because the first year is to fix those being pushed out of K - 12 who can't read or write. All of the fervor from those defending their weak school system have little evidense of their success. They never have learned the word innovation and fear vouchers and charter schools due to knowing they cannot compeat. There will never be a levy large enough to satisfy their greed. You don't see Doctor or Lawyers on your property tax - why should the education system. Doctors and Lawyers are responsible for their work - teachers could care less if you ever make a living per their brilliant teaching - not accountabl

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