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Officials mar game

January 30, 2013

HARRIS — On paper and as far as any record will show, the Munising Mustangs beat the Bark River-Harris Broncos 49-43 Tuesday night. Unfortunately, there is more to it than that....

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Spartytruth

Mar-04-13 9:21 AM

It's an opinion column. Referees do not make "peanuts" either.

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stase111

Feb-08-13 8:34 AM

With everything that is coming your way, you would think you would either say "I'm Sorry or move on and write a new story..

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caseygoodman

Feb-05-13 10:27 PM

hey look yooperbill university of michigan is wearing all yellows at home...better write Obama! i'll put my basketball credentials up vs anyone and to even bring up paul pulfus in this is ASININE! paul has done more for basketball in this region than anyone!highschool or alumni bball thats a fact! they were ALLOWED to wear the uni's. do u really think wearing yellow made them win? i'd say it's the hours they put in at the gym...thank you paul! i couldnt sit back any longer and read this nonsense

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stase111

Feb-05-13 8:07 AM

Time to move on....

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Baller

Feb-03-13 7:44 AM

Experience does not equate credibility or quality. I want incentives to attract more people to officiate, and better incentives for those already in the business. Obviously, the ones you mentioned aren't enough as the number of officials is on the decline. Maybe there is another solution, but please someone get the dialogue going because it is a disservice to the kids on the floor to maintain status quo.

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KPrice

Feb-02-13 1:21 AM

and with 80+ years of experence between the two of these officials, id say they have built up enough of credibility for themselves

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KPrice

Feb-02-13 1:18 AM

I would say there already is incentives for high ranked officials. In order to ref deep into the MHSAA tourney you need to have a good enough rating. Also putting tourney games aside, officials have the incentive of doing a good job for the flat out reason of so they can be hired back in future years. Like anything else, if you slack off it will cost you in the future. What other incentives do you want?

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Baller

Feb-01-13 10:33 PM

Let's face it, the quality of officials is on the decline. I rarely see a well officiated game these days. Obviously, the state of Michigan needs to start coming up with some incentives for highly ranked refs or something.

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gray24

Feb-01-13 4:41 PM

You just said "WE just beat Carney at home in their yellows" Sounds like it to me you're representing a school.Must really hate the color yellow :0

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CaseyFord

Feb-01-13 4:41 PM

and the only reason I said " great article" is because the discussion it has created. Otherwise, I do consider this article garbage

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CaseyFord

Feb-01-13 4:35 PM

A few points, way to take away from this great article with this garbage and personal attacks. Two at least stamp a real name behind your post instead of YooperBill or Gray24. Lets get back on topic this is about a WHINNY article complaining about officials. It's BS like this that makes people not want to officiate. Officials give a lot of time for little money and take a verbal beating every game and this article just piles on. What are you going to do when there are no officials to officiate? Complain about yellow jerseys?

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MPOLFUS

Feb-01-13 4:23 PM

Why are you implying i choose the uniform i dont coach or anything

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YooperBill

Feb-01-13 4:02 PM

mpolfus, so what you are doing is choosing to wear your new yellows in direct defiance of a MHSAA rule, rather than complying with the rule by wearing your home whites? You know, the same ones you were able to wear for the Munising home game on 1/15. These yellows seem to be your wild card uniform - wear it at home when you want and at away games when you want. I believe this to be in direct violation of MHSAA rules. The MHSAA waiver you had is no longer in effect. And paulpolfus stating that you have no home whites is a flat out lie as you wore them against munising. Now who's embarrassing a school. I do not represent a school, only myself. Paulpolfus is representing a school. How embarrassing that must be for that team. Rules are rules, they apply to everyone.

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MPOLFUS

Feb-01-13 3:29 PM

ive seen teams wear black at home and no one cares or says anything, nor do I sit here and complain about it, because i don't have a problem with it. there is definately more to a game than the color of a teams uniform.

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gray24

Feb-01-13 3:13 PM

I guess we know what school you're embarrissing now.

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YooperBill

Feb-01-13 2:35 PM

Being embroidered because of a mistake? I'll call BS on that one. So, you ordered 3 colors of uniforms this year? white, yellow and green? I'll call BS on that one too. How is it that your home game on 1/15 you are in whites but then on 1/25 you are again back in home yellows?????? Seems to me that there is proof that you do have home whites.

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YooperBill

Feb-01-13 2:13 PM

to gray24, hahahaha we did just beat carney at home in their yellows. No sour grapes here.

to mpolfus, "wow"? Is that your explanation for not following MHSAA rules? Please explain the yellow home uniforms. Why the double standard when it comes to a MHSAA rule? Why no answer about the waiver here yet? What's the real deal with that?

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PaulPolfus

Feb-01-13 2:11 PM

In response to YooperBill. Protocol says that in the case of the inability to wear white home uniforms (Whites were being embroidered with correct spelling of a mistake the printers made) the opposing team should be notified, referees notified and an email sent to the MHSAA office. In this case all criteria were met. I contacted Nate Hampton, explained the situation. He said that was fine. The opposing coach was notified, stating he had no issued with it, both referees were also notified. As Nate stated to me after to just make him aware of when we received our whites back. It amazes me how much other people other than those who are directly involved show so much concern over the situation before they get the facts. Other than that the MHSAA was completly satisfied so that really is my only concern.

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gray24

Feb-01-13 1:54 PM

First the refs and you can't beat Carney because they wear yellow jerseys. Lots of sour grapes

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MPOLFUS

Feb-01-13 1:52 PM

Wow....

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YooperBill

Feb-01-13 1:35 PM

I have been following along here and now that I see PaulPolfus has joined in I had to too. A bit off topic but I just have to ask; PaulPolfus, are you still wearing those illegal yellow colored uniforms? With your vast knowledge of MHSAA rules I would think that you know that the primary color of home uniforms is BY RULE to be WHITE. I believe this was addressed directly to you by a coach from another school which you replied that you have a waiver. Well, here's what the MHSAA had to say about that last week, and I will quote the email my friend received from MHSAA: "Carney was provided a waiver to wear a jersey color other than white. However, the team should now be wearing white jerseys."......can you explain why you are still wearing yellows then? Or like with joe906 is that none of my business either?

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PaulPolfus

Feb-01-13 1:03 PM

Joe, Don't know where you get your information about "referees in the back pocket." Here is a little factual information. Of all the referees in the Carney Summer League only one does high school varsity game, and the trrue purpose of the league is to give players of all ages a chance to play and compete against all levels. The players who do participate appreciate the time the officials give during the summer. Yes there is bonding at the Summer League because that is one of the intentions of the program, so thank you for that comment.At some point in your life you might want to consider just cheering for your team and try to abstain from bashing other comminities etc of which you really have no understanding.

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gray24

Feb-01-13 12:05 PM

wow!!! A whole three years!These refs have forgotten more about basketball then you'll ever know.Get a shirt and whistle and lets see how you do.

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Joe906

Feb-01-13 11:58 AM

The attitude shown here by STONGE is exactly what carries over onto the floor with many of these officials, and that's part of what causes the issues. The argument that 'if you haven't reffed a game you have no room to critique officiating' is as flawed as saying one cannot complain about politics because he/she has never been a politician. It's utter nonsense! I appreciate what the officials do for the players and teams. Without them there is no game. I understand the time and effort they put in and I for one applaud them for doing what they do. But to say they "give of their time' is NOT exactly true - they are PAID to ref. So drop the do-gooder attitude. You're getting paid. To believe that you are beyond the fans in light years in regards to seeing and calling a game is ludicrous. And to act as such during a contest or here in these comments just shows what some of these refs are made of - conceit and arrogance and ignorance. These games are for and about the kids, not you Mr

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evictor24

Jan-31-13 4:02 PM

Officials, players and coaches all have jobs out there. And all three are going to make mistakes. There's no way you'd see an entire article blaming the outcome of a MHSAA contest on a single player or coach - It would be about as tasteless as this one.

The truth is, we are severely understaffed with registered officials in our area, and I can't say that this article was a very good recruiting piece. If anything, it's scaring people away from the profession.

And what do you think the MHSAA is going to do with your complaint? Commend you for your outstanding sportsmanship by publicity humiliating these officials in an online forum? Send "better" officials from the Lansing area up to BR-H on a Tuesday night for the going rate of $50?

I can't believe your supervisor let you publish this. It's an embarrassment to the sport and our communities.

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