Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | Staff Contacts | Affiliates | All Access E-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

District will try again for millage

Residents to vote on renewal on Feb. 26

December 18, 2012

GLADSTONE — The Gladstone School Board approved a millage proposal resolution for a special election on Feb. 26....

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(88)

JOHN60

Dec-31-12 9:00 PM

Cheesehead what part of the vote did you not understand, it lost by a large amount of vote's. You school brats want your cake and eat it to.

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Dec-31-12 9:00 PM

Cheesehead what part of the vote did you not understand, it lost by a large amount of vote's. You school brats want your cake and eat it to.

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PhilCaron

Jan-01-13 10:11 AM

A Cheesehead is a solid chunk of cheese with nothing inbetween but ears. When a Doctor fails at an operation they are sued. We teachers and higher education take a persons mind for K-12 and college and fail to educate - they should be sued. Cheesehead I assume your head is swiss cheese with holes in it. I realize you must rarely notice the real world but the United States education system continues to drop behind many other Countries due to teachers losing their mission. They are more worried about how much money they make along with cradle to grave entitlements, they have forgotten the real reason they are so called educators. Terrible teachers are protected by Tenure and the only way they get in trouble is having sex with their students. Teachers and administrators should have to re-apply for their jobs every 4 years and bid on the jobs with lowest bid winning the job. Eliminate entitlements, and make these people work for a living not have their face buried in the feedbag.

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

frogleggs

Jan-01-13 9:00 PM

Do you wonder if any of these know-it-alls, ever spent a year preparing tests, grading tests, understanding students, learning weaknesses, meeting parents, wanting to fail students who have no interest and show no leanrning capability, or desire for being in school, wanting to deal with parents who have no interest in their children?

You can’t argue reason, with people who are unreasonable, and are not open to understand reason, and the reason for unreasonable consequences when they fail to understand the reason for being unreasonable?

At the end of the day, you don’t get what you don’t pay for !

Cheesehead, the more they write, the more they prove your point!

3 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

frogleggs

Jan-01-13 9:01 PM

I wonder if just one of those know-it-alls,

ever spent a year in a classroom, a half year in a classroom, a month in a classroom, a week in a classroom?

I wonder how many of these know-it-alls, ever tried to meet state mandated curriculum guidelines…

For one student, for five students, for ten students, for fifteen student, for twenty students, for thirty students..

FOR FIVE PERIODS A DAY !

SO, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE ACCORDING TO THE STUDENT CLASSLOAD GIVEN ABOVE:

ANYWHERE FROM FIVE STUDENTS TO 150 STUDENT A DAY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATING!

TRY IT YOURSELF SOMETIME !

3 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

frogleggs

Jan-01-13 9:02 PM

Cheesehead, I didn’t notice it before until your post.

But after looking over the submissions, it’s abundantly clear. You can bring a horse to water, but you can’t make a horse drink.

So, why should you sue the horse for not drinking?

Sounds like the writer with that kind of logic, is the same horse that has his head in the hole that drops those smelly horsey apples!

2 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PhilCaron

Jan-02-13 8:07 AM

Mr. Froglegs and the all knowing Cheesehead have proven the point they are both on the feedbag and likely are one in the same. Having them insist someone blindly vote for their wage increases clearly show their greed and entitlement attitude. The voters are not a bunch of mindless sheep and don't have automatic pay increases to pay taxes. Look how much of your property taxes goes to schools - it is a crime. They need to live within their budget and if they truely cared about their fellow brothers and sisters they would take across the board pay cuts to keep everyone working - but no they get rid of the less senior fresh minds in education and keep the deadwood. It is time to have these people join the real world. Pay more of your benefits and get back to teaching rather than pushing unprepared people into the work force - and yes Froggie and Cheesy you are responsible!

3 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 12:57 PM

Pcaron:

To repeat what froggleggs said:

HAVE YOU EVER TAUGHT A DAY IN A CLASS ROOM IN YOUR LIFE?

If not, then you are not the expert on teaching you seem to claim to be.

Clearly, you have positioned yourself as self appointed expert in a field of denigrating a profession where you have demonstrated no first-hand or personal experience,

some would say fool-speak…

But,

There is always hope…

Even a fool who keeps silence may be considered wise,

and more so a fool who shut’s his mouth and lip’s, considered intelligent.

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 12:59 PM

Surely, pcaron, it’s cheaper to educate people, rather than in the long run, to pay the welfare entitlement cost?

Pcaron, if teachers could choose their student’s in the public school sector,

there would be a different outcome.

Some children would never be chosen, they simply do not possess the aptitude, desire, or willingness to become a STUDENT

(look up the meaning of the word - do NOT assume you know or understand its meaning fully).

You WOULD NOT be the caustic critic of the American education system.

In your criticism, you make one large error.

The school systems you seem to brag about in foreign countries, children and parents put a different VALUE on the worth of an EDUCATION.

The worth or value or emphasis in those countries is entirely different than the average family or child places on an education in this country.

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 1:04 PM

It doesn’t matter where you make spending cuts in education, be it heating fuel or personnel, sooner or later, schools will turn cold, good teachers, staff and administrators will leave, and you WILL be left with the chaff in every sector of a school system, a business or what-have-you.

Cream rises to the top, and always, the dregs will be found at the bottom of the wage scale,

you understand that pcaron,

and so it is with students,

no matter how much in the way of education you throw at a child, they will not turn into a rocket scientist, a member of congress, or a business owner, or a …

In fiscal year 2011, total welfare costs equaled $927 billion ($717 billion from the federal government and $210 billion from states)

Annually, the U.S. spends approximately $80 - $ 90 BILLION on the K - 12 education system.

Much less than welfare pcaron?

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 1:06 PM

Remember, everyone’s expenses go up, mine, your’s, everyone’s, like healthcare, food, gasoline, so does the cost of education at EVERY LEVEL.

It is beyond my control your control, or the board of education’s control. Across this country, costs of everything are out of control.

Remember, it all started when republicans began shipping wage earning jobs overseas, and now there isn’t enough tax revenue coming in to pay the bills at home, and some hard choices have to be made.

3 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 1:08 PM

Sounds like you PCaron, and others like you, are one of those REPUBLICAN nattering naboobs of negativism, who would so gladly ship working men and women’s jobs overseas, raises wage earners taxes, cut their own republican taxes, and expect everyone else to do with less, and expect others to teach their children more, with less, all the while cutting education costs, while they increase their net ASSests.

SCHOOLS HAVE NO CHOICE IN THIS COUNTRY ON HOW THEY RECEIVE THE MONEY FOR THEIR OPERATION. They are forced into a structure of financing not of their choice.

3 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Cheesehead

Jan-02-13 1:11 PM

mr pcaron

Actually, Pcaron I’ve supported public schools for over 50 years, and over the last 32 years, I have not had any children in school.

To repeat froggleggs:

HAVE YOU EVER TAUGHT A DAY IN A CLASS ROOM IN YOUR LIFE?

If not, then you are not the expert on teaching you claim to be.

If you think education is expensive, watch when you are forced, not asked, to pay for welfare.

Seems like you’re exceedingly quiet on that topic, are you myopic, mr P?

From all of your blubbering, you would rather take money from educating our children in this community, and send what little you have left over to Washington for welfare payments.

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Jan-02-13 1:29 PM

Mr. cheesehead and froglegs are one in the same. You people think your so special, We the tax's payers work just as hard and have taken cuts. Schools need to join the real world and remove their entitilement attitude. No means No (renew)

1 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Jan-02-13 1:54 PM

Mr. cheesehead Just drop off your check off to the Gladstone Schools and stop talking about welfare, we are talking about a millage renew here you idot.

1 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

RedTigers

Jan-02-13 2:28 PM

JOHN60, you are just a sad and mean man. You obviously have not watched or seen what has happened to the "entitlement" employees of the schools. What a joke.

0 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PhilCaron

Jan-02-13 2:34 PM

Block of Cheesehead once again talks down to people due to his almighty knowledge. I don't know where he got off the track talking about Welfare but people who depend on our taxdollars are also welfare but sucking our wallets dry with their huge wages while working part time. There is no funding problem in education other than too much funding. We could take all the best teachers by subject and grade level and have them lecture through a big screen TV in any large classroom. Then we could hire classroom monitors who would pass out the homework assignments, grade the papers, and download the data to the teaching center. You could eliminate all the multiple school districts, get rid of all the administrative waste and their cast of thousands and only have one or two eight grade teachers for all of the Upper Pennsula. The students would get the "best of the best" and not get stuck with Teacher Gramma Moses who could care less about the children. Think of all the cost savin

2 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PhilCaron

Jan-02-13 3:07 PM

My solution for welfare is another great idea. Open all the empty buildings in the UP and install pedal driven devises that produce electric power. Have all the welfare people show up in 8 hour shifts to pedal their bikes and produce power for those who are at work and reduce our electric cost. Once again too much cheese in his head forget 80%+ of school operating funds are for their wages. Please have a separate wage levy and see what the people really think! Do your ears ring when the wind blows through the holes in your cheesehead? Seems there is nothing in there to spot the truth from sticking.

2 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Jan-02-13 6:53 PM

Redtigers I'm not mean, I'M just tired of you idots not understanding the word No! Your like a little Kid with a video game I want my way. School Brats.

0 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

RedTigers

Jan-02-13 7:26 PM

Maybe not mean, but definately a bully with the words you use and calling of names. These "school brats" are only doing what is needed to keep the school running.

2 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Jan-02-13 8:05 PM

RedTigers Time to live within their budget. I have to, As far as being a bully I don't think so. Its time to accept people are tired of paying high tax's. The majority of people has spoken, stop trying to push this down tax payer's throut. W

0 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

RedTigers

Jan-02-13 9:56 PM

JOHN< have you been involved in the schools and see what the money is being spent on? Run for the board, go to the meeting, get involved! I bet what you think about how they spend money would change pretty drastically. They have lived within their budget and try to even save money, even after the state required more pre K teachers and still cut money. Go get involved. Please.

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

BravesRock

Jan-02-13 11:42 PM

PhilCaron, I don’t like the entitlement mentality that some (not all) teachers have, and I think the MEA cares far more about adults than it does about kids. But I see another side as well. Most of the teachers I know are hardworking and care deeply about kids. Many have desk drawers full of snacks for kids who come to school hungry, provide hats and mittens, and tutor kids who don’t get support at home. Others go to athletic events and concerts when their own kids aren’t involved, because they know it means a lot to students. Besides teaching, they settle disputes, bandage cuts, listen to kids struggling with issues at home or with classmates, deal with bullying, mentally and physically challenged kids. Then the parent says that their little angel could never have copied a paper or shoved someone in a locker, or of course they turned in that paper, and they should get an A on it too. Try that with your teacher lecturing to hundreds of kids via teleconferencing.

2 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

BravesRock

Jan-02-13 11:44 PM

PhilCaron and John60, I’d also suggest you go to the website of any school district in the area and look at the transparency section. You can look at contracts and budgets, and if you do you will find that in most districts teachers, administrators and other staff pay 20% of the cost of insurance, and most have also switched to cheaper plans. Many have taken a pay cut or at least a freeze. And layoffs are now based on the results of evaluations and the need for a particular skill set, rather than tenure. These changes have been a long overdue, but they are now a reality.

4 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

JOHN60

Jan-03-13 12:41 AM

BravesRock You make it sound like our jobs are easy, working with co-workers is also challenging. With the job market as it is, many of the people working today have no benfits. People in this area need a tax break. The marjority has voted and do not want to renew the millage. You are trying to justify that teachers work harder than other people. I disgree there are people that work much harder and don't have half the benfits. Wake up the voter's have spoken.

0 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 25 of 88 comments Show More Comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web